From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11572C0032 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4C540AE7 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:36:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org DE4C540AE7 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp2.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nQLBYc9iWDlr for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:36:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 373 seconds by postgrey-1.37 at util1.osuosl.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:36:03 UTC DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.osuosl.org 7355940A95 Received: from mail.emuadmin.com (mail.emuadmin.com [108.61.189.74]) by smtp2.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7355940A95 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.emuadmin.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B63CF61FC1; Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:29:44 +0000 From: Emil Pfeffer To: Peter Todd , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: <20231108142944.2fiuahm35scfyvd7@emuadmin.com> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Todd , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Nov 2023 00:14:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Future of the bitcoin-dev mailing list X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:36:05 -0000 On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 11:08:58PM +0000, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 09:37:22AM -0600, Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > Anti spam has been an issue for the moderators. It's relentless. Without > > access to the underlying server, it has been difficult to fight spam. There > > is some support for filters in mailman2 but it's not great. > > Since this is a technical mailing list it would be fine to require people to > pay a non-refundable anti-spam fee, eg via lightning, to gain the ability to > send messages. While this would require some custom software, it's probably > even possible to implement this if a third party is used for hosting, provided > they have some kind of API. > Could be done but it's overkill. Running your own mail server is not that scary as the initial post makes it out to be. Sending out spam is problematic only when you allow imap/pop3 access which is not the case when running a mailling list. My suggestion is to get the Bitcoin CEO hook us up on https://lists.freebsd.org Failling that I volunteer to get the same setup going for a community run project. --