From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XcdD3-0004PJ-BH for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:38:29 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de ([80.67.31.102]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1XcdD1-0001ML-Uy for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:38:29 +0000 Received: from [89.14.81.212] (helo=anonymous) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1XccxV-0004ai-OH for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:22:25 +0200 From: xor To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:22:18 +0200 Message-ID: <2262118.BDDGpkgqmz@1337h4x0r> Organization: Freenet Project User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-37-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2080937.entchuySSE"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: eG9yQGZyZWVtYWlsLmJvZ2VydC5kZQ== X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.67.31.102 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) X-Headers-End: 1XcdD1-0001ML-Uy Subject: [Bitcoin-development] Something people are forgetting about the Gentoo / Luke-jr censorship issue X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: xor@freenetproject.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:38:29 -0000 --nextPart2080937.entchuySSE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey folks, FYI the issue is that Luke-Jr wants to include code which can censor stuff like SatoshiDice transactions because he thinks they are denial of service: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524512 While everyone is jumping on the neutrality Bitcoin should have, you're forgetting that there are also *legal* implications: The *technical ability'* to filter certain types of network traffic can cause you to be legally liable to *USE* it to filter illegal stuff. So even if the filter code is disabled by default, it can put Bitcoin users in legal danger: Law enforcement can try to force them to use it. This for sure depends on the country you are living in, but in general I think it can be agreed that it will be a lot easier to defend a "my node relays everything uncensored" policy against law enforcement if you wouldn't even have the technical ability to filter stuff because the code just cannot do it anyway. So please do not even include this code as disabled, and if possible do not even write or publish it :) Also, as I don't have a Gentoo bugtracker account, can someone please add this comment there? Thanks & Gretings, xor - a developer of https://freenetproject.org/ --nextPart2080937.entchuySSE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCAAGBQJUOAfAAAoJEMtmZ+8tjWt5wqgP/RdtRDvJ32BWeSHHXGFmU2PB btuWVXFRbBiKnIUxx5g8A6AcbA9OPHsJOdxeFQLKweJvRI/zi0whvvRE4fmDvOzM 4tibShIBAuKyqWKC3Y3S6HMxsmD8S5hiuYPG3RiE4Cgod54ew+a7X0ROPRseSEu1 Gb5y+4nzpnNBs9EqmC8vlRgunj4EGERNGovTAeB25x9VkIvkGu/zhk1tOXn5pIpD 81/djQzNjzauo6lrOAygUgVGxWiV5UVvSZI6iuMvWjttXg9rc3L22t9ySM0079tN B3qfRHD+0N5OytAwsvTC2E+NOlZ35KgSKSlDUoBFyYJ0ER2upV3DMOzN7bzXJvIB xeefhyLWeV1uudfp4sKZD3NVFIySUGUOdujZONCg1oCNb0Ir4PFgTLKWvPCX5Tlu /KsxYMM3nLMic4EhBp+I0t/oJN14hxHAJWUtzHxv5CvHi5p5Iok+fIRfjtF/bdF0 alWBWVK7K9rL38VtmfBH5PqIHjPfE7Vn08N6ojq+U3OMn3hxVyMthLH859OYpmj+ lmJufSkPY13lPFG0SDXxu60RSf7svtdpmFpNBpYeIwg7ONGcRt03QZBNqZcVIdoW z/FPbTbKfylxbV9PTo/xPXEqFdP5aWBSoYxSEU5dO70xkhK7kFdqZTDENyijohPm vo/l5leGYF0OtC1SDWAl =FV/j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2080937.entchuySSE--