From: Aymeric Vitte <aymeric@peersm.com>
To: Russell O'Connor <roconnor@blockstream.com>,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>,
Andrew Poelstra <apoelstra@wpsoftware.net>,
Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Debate: 64 bytes in OP_RETURN VS taproot OP_FALSE OP_IF OP_PUSH
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 19:23:55 +0100 [thread overview]
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It's super unclear how long it could take for such a change to be adopted
Then the answer is simple, see:
https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3beed1bfeba7#workaround-to-the-80b-op_return-limitation
Outstandingly, very, mega, bad, but working, bringing bitcoin back 10
years ago
But why not? If bitcoin folks don't get that we need a 1tx storage
solution for the future, then let's bring back bitcoin into the past and
destroy coins
Le 12/02/2023 à 17:23, Aymeric Vitte a écrit :
>
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27043#issuecomment-1427069403
>
> "What is the process to have someone do the PR for this? Or I do it
> and most likely it will be a very shxtty one since I am not a C/C++
> expert, then wasting the time of everybody
>
> It's urgently required, I did consider OP_RETURN as a dart in the past
> but changed my mind, it's adapted to the current evolutions, not
> flooding bitcoin with 2 txs while only 1 is needed
>
> If not the best 1 tx solution is super simple: store in addresses, and
> super bad at the end because burning bitcoins, while still not
> expensive if you don't need to store big things"
>
>
> Le 05/02/2023 à 19:12, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev a écrit :
>>
>>
>> On Sat., Feb. 4, 2023, 21:01 Peter Todd, <pete@petertodd.org
>> <mailto:pete@petertodd.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On February 5, 2023 1:11:35 AM GMT+01:00, Russell O'Connor via
>> bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>> >Since bytes in the witness are cheaper than bytes in the script
>> pubkey,
>> >there is a crossover point in data size where it will simply be
>> cheaper to
>> >use witness data. Where that crossover point is depends on the
>> finer
>> >details of the overhead of the two methods, but you could make some
>> >reasonable assumptions. Such a calculation could form the basis
>> of a
>> >reasonable OP_RETURN proposal. I don't know if it would be
>> persuasive, but
>> >it would at least be coherent.
>>
>> I don't think it's worth the technical complexity trying to
>> carefully argue a specific limit. Let users decide for themselves
>> how they want to use OpReturn.
>>
>>
>> Even better.
>>
>>
>>
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-01 0:46 [bitcoin-dev] Debate: 64 bytes in OP_RETURN VS taproot OP_FALSE OP_IF OP_PUSH Christopher Allen
2023-02-01 2:07 ` Peter Todd
2023-02-01 2:22 ` Christopher Allen
2023-02-01 8:36 ` Kostas Karasavvas
2023-02-01 12:51 ` Peter Todd
2023-02-01 14:02 ` Andrew Poelstra
2023-02-02 11:22 ` Peter Todd
2023-02-02 11:45 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-02 11:49 ` Peter Todd
2023-02-02 12:24 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-01 12:59 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-02 13:25 ` Rijndael
2023-02-03 11:15 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-03 18:47 ` Christopher Allen
2023-02-04 14:11 ` Kostas Karasavvas
2023-02-04 17:01 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-04 18:54 ` Christopher Allen
2023-02-04 20:55 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-04 22:18 ` Christopher Allen
2023-02-04 23:09 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-05 0:04 ` Peter Todd
2023-02-05 11:40 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-05 12:06 ` Peter Todd
2023-02-05 12:47 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-05 0:11 ` Russell O'Connor
2023-02-05 2:01 ` Peter Todd
2023-02-05 18:12 ` Russell O'Connor
2023-02-12 16:23 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-16 18:23 ` Aymeric Vitte [this message]
2023-02-16 19:59 ` Claus Ehrenberg
2023-02-17 10:56 ` Aymeric Vitte
2023-02-05 18:06 ` Andrew Poelstra
2023-02-17 12:49 ` Anthony Towns
2023-02-18 18:38 ` Aymeric Vitte
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