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From: Robert McKay <robert@mckay.com>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts?
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 22:27:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <261ae2bf5c67d44d090709be57a9e1ad@webmail.mckay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgQ=b2e-hFwZiVDPTs2hnPLuQBh0Lx31Q9xGNPG8+2fH-g@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 13:14:44 -0800, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Drak <drak@zikula.org> wrote:
>> Simple verification relies on being able to answer the email sent to 
>> the
>> person in the whois records, or standard admin/webmaster@ addresses 
>> to prove
>> ownership of the domain
>
> Godaddy and many other CA's are verified from nothing other than a
> http fetch, no email involved.

It's just as easy to steal emails via a BGP or DNS redirect anyway.. 
you could even take over the actual domain at the registry level by 
stealing a password reset via BGP or DNS redirect and actually many 
registries will hand over control of a domain by faxing them a forged 
driving license in the owner's name anyway so it doesn't even really 
need to be a particularly sophisticated attacker. Once you have registry 
control of the domain it's easy enough to get an SSL cert too, probably 
even an 'extended validation' one.

When Afghanistan was taken over the entire .af TLD was probably 
transferred using a forged fax to ICANN 
(http://web.archive.org/web/20041017031020/http://www.iana.org/cctld/af/razeeq-letter-13aug02.pdf) 
but I guess that's a little different :p

Rob



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-08 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-08  1:17 [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts? Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08  3:38 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08  9:03   ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 12:37     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 19:16       ` Drak
2013-12-08 19:25         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:28           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-08 20:40             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:51               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:01                 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 21:11                   ` Drak
2013-12-08 23:51                     ` theymos
2013-12-09  0:06                       ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-09  6:29                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-09 10:54                       ` Roy Badami
2013-12-10  9:18                       ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08 21:09                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:16             ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 21:58               ` Roy Badami
2013-12-08 23:03                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-09  5:32                   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-08 22:44               ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-08 23:48                 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 23:18               ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 23:29               ` Patrick
2013-12-08 21:46             ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-12-08 20:40           ` Drak
2013-12-08 20:50             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:07               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:14                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 22:27                   ` Robert McKay [this message]
2013-12-12 20:51           ` Adam Back
2013-12-31 13:39             ` Drak
2013-12-31 13:48               ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 13:59                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 14:18                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 14:23                     ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 21:25                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-31 21:33                         ` Matt Corallo
2014-01-01 10:02                           ` Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-01 11:37                             ` Wladimir
2014-01-01 15:10                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-01 22:15                       ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-02 19:49                   ` Jorge Timón
2013-12-31 14:05                 ` Benjamin Cordes
2014-01-03  5:45                 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03  9:59                   ` Drak
2014-01-03 11:22                     ` Tier Nolan
2014-01-03 13:09                       ` Adam Back
2014-01-03 17:38                     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03 18:21                       ` Jorge Timón
2014-01-04  1:43                         ` Troy Benjegerdes
2013-12-08 10:00   ` Drak
2013-12-08 12:39     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 16:51     ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 16:08 ` Wladimir

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