From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E17E12FE for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:16:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 725CBE4 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FAC34806C; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:16:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=taoeffect.com; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; s=taoeffect.com; bh=WThWBKimFDeIuwH9K gAX1e+pBKo=; b=ZtCHkZeUAWPQgN0GJnB695P18fqsjmcKKEn+WpEIXjb45Bcno 9SzNi0MloJmcSPlOdf+twJnHeOsqOBIp0n9H9Bn/+yKT11MdTlCOzAJuaX5//MMf q3nVO8JM4CQAkkFkVw2Wty4fHd0PETMUnqe+s+nAfE/TBfsiCNc1lq23ZU= Received: from [10.0.0.144] (unknown [98.204.186.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: contact@taoeffect.com) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83C37348062; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:16:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_505D80AF-E6D2-4F53-A01B-4D1539F4B64E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Tao Effect In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:15:59 -0500 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 540710159.0785871-90e8179c80f44f6de09078ed06ba0151 Message-Id: <28E7F3BA-3D0E-4FF2-9143-FD79A0A029F5@taoeffect.com> References: To: Ryan J Martin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:33:14 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Some thoughts on removing timestamps in PoW X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:16:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_505D80AF-E6D2-4F53-A01B-4D1539F4B64E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CDAD6EA8-5E4B-44DE-9489-FD5104334091" --Apple-Mail=_CDAD6EA8-5E4B-44DE-9489-FD5104334091 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Real quick (I've received some off-list replies and do plan to respond = to those), want to be clear: this thread is not meant to be interpreted = as a proposal to modify Bitcoin (it is not a BIP), it is just, exactly = as the subject says, some thoughts I had that I hadn't seen expressed = elsewhere, that I felt like sharing, in case they are at all = useful/interesting to anyone. Cheers, Greg -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also = sharing with the NSA. > On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Ryan J Martin > wrote: >=20 > To be frank, this kind of thing would be better off attempted as a = fork to a new coin. Changing the max number of coins, the block reward, = the difficulty algo, mining policy and protocol is going to be a = non-starter. Also, what are the proposed quantifiavle benefits from = removing timestamps? How would this be done at the protocol level? Are = these other changes related to removing timestamps/rationale for other = supply changes? >=20 > Regards, > Ryan J. Martin >=20 --Apple-Mail=_CDAD6EA8-5E4B-44DE-9489-FD5104334091 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Real quick (I've received some off-list replies and do plan = to respond to those), want to be clear: this thread is not meant to be = interpreted as a proposal to modify Bitcoin (it is not a BIP), it is = just, exactly as the subject says, some thoughts I had that I hadn't = seen expressed elsewhere, that I felt like sharing, in case they are at = all useful/interesting to anyone.

Cheers,
Greg

--
Please do not email me anything that you are not = comfortable also sharing with the NSA.

On Feb 19, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Ryan J Martin <rjmarti2@millersville.edu> wrote:

To be frank, this kind of thing would be better off = attempted as a fork to a new coin. Changing the max number of coins, the = block reward, the difficulty algo, mining policy and protocol is going = to be a non-starter. Also, what are the proposed quantifiavle benefits from removing timestamps? How would this be done at the = protocol level? Are these other changes related to removing = timestamps/rationale for other supply changes?

Regards,
Ryan J. Martin


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