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[202.12.124.151]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6a1803df08f44-8ccea15c583si1715186d6.8.2026.05.30.12.11.44 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 30 May 2026 12:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: nikita@karetnikov.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=202.12.124.151; Received: from phl-compute-03.internal (phl-compute-03.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailfout.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041B21D00045 for ; Sat, 30 May 2026 15:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-imap-09 ([10.202.2.99]) by phl-compute-03.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 30 May 2026 15:11:44 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: dmFkZTFfg6HFo3w70k42sw+9rL4y1HxEZgX3Y/vC4jZZFqcvuLU8rQVGPMDLB4P0xRqyo1 DIsCeAFnliz5LdVMgyQOo7zhgoHMzmmXDtgkgfSZgK4FJBQK/7i1R9hemjJEATTuRqbkyP F0brbaH2fbWalbVJAPLC0Gr+sKKbf27W5RwCC+sEONqKt96c0i+wNw1Vkl2ovPMUM7JQCQ 6ksGwVrnchZmNS9MN/Mqk0H03hBcMH7uaXA+2Jnok4m+hfRgieav8lOhunKD7JQhccEQk0 zrfhUDIbM2zzhbCZeeQEHxtC0qF1/vcQYF5bDRE0Cql5pKCXj6jvn0a9mIrOUWoABoFJYy 0qSleru2RsOkdn8Nyat/MTs1LYck2VYo94JLVCjGSghYYCR3lh4HDWtPgoK6hiKCBDlhQh 6LbQJ5H3iShfIdOTvrRrWB8I5umZGS4iqGLzSRr+AatZf4ywo13D+yaDgeIDzrkXEMDr4k YTCVKBMo21pMkS9xTf6Pie/ABe8YnoF4ATJeCrA4cWLOu++MbW0hcg0+si6+UxYqSBAmcW dPbBv6UUeNi+6QsDgRd+Xm4+jpzIJ/RGb5ASNsDNROeza9yk4i8+nZd1TRHqAfbpN9Zrpz UZSolp9aZgBln9L1aiLsGXnSVn4bgMJRS9obCiKZXDnZOqy6GCmodURPsohA X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i852146ca:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.phl.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 853A93020073; Sat, 30 May 2026 15:11:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThreadId: AT67WUVlopUc Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 21:11:23 +0200 From: "Nikita Karetnikov" To: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <28eeaa8b-dc19-463f-882f-1ed69c4c9037@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Weak Quantum Bounty Ceremony Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: nikita@karetnikov.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=permerror (no key for signature) header.i=@karetnikov.org header.s=2022-03.pbsmtp header.b=eWovhpZQ; dkim=pass header.i=@messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b="U5MP9/wm"; spf=none (google.com: nikita@karetnikov.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mailfrom=nikita@karetnikov.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Dear Erik, The bounty idea has been discussed recently in =E2=80=9CWhat if we let Quan= tum Hunters get Bitcoin rewards ?=E2=80=9D I=E2=80=99ve also seen it mentioned elsewhere. Before going into the implementation, let=E2=80=99s discuss the concept. I don=E2=80=99t understand what problem is being solved by the bounty. To me it serves no purpose. If the network is not updated to be post-quantum, the attackers can just go= for the funds elsewhere. The counterargument is that a discovery can be made by a lab that=E2=80=99s= not interested in stealing. What is the bounty for in that case? The researchers are primarily motivated by producing novel results. They already receive salary and the companies working on this have funding. This also assumes that the lab would be allowed to publish this result publ= icly. They would have other means to demonstrate their discovery as well. Why would you optimize for this very specific use case? And if the network is updated to be post-quantum, the PQ bounty has no purp= ose. The bounty is already there, it=E2=80=99s the network itself, pre- or post-= quantum. 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