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Please let me know if you see any issues with this method. BIP: XXX Layer: Consensus (soft fork) Title: nLockTime signaling and flag day activation Author: /dev/fd0 Status: Draft Type: Standards Track Created: 2024-08-19 License: Public Domain ## Abstract This document describes a process to activate soft forks using flag day after `nLockTime` signaling and discussion. ## Motivation BIP 8 and BIP 9 are controversial. This BIP is an alternative which addresses the problems with other activation methods. ## Specification - Assign numbers to different soft fork proposals or use their BIP numbers - Users can broadcast their transactions with one of these numbers used as `nLockTime` to show support - Miners inlcuding a transaction in block would signal readiness for a soft fork - Community can analyze these transactions after 3 months and prepare for a flag day activation of soft fork Example: Use 119 to signal support for OP_CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY in `nLockTime` ## Reference implementation Activation: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/ab91bf39b7c11e9c86bb2043c24f0f377f1cf514.diff Exclusion in relay or mining: https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/commit/18cd7b0ef6eaeacd06678c6d192b6cacc9d7eee5.diff --- If a transaction does not get included in block for a long time, users can replace it with another transaction spending same inputs and use a different `nLockTime`. /dev/fd0 floppy disk guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/29d850d1-912a-4b15-ba41-cc36d05e7074n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_449137_1913765998.1724044116948 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bitcoin Developers,

I am proposing an alternative w= ay to activate soft forks. Please let me know if you see any issues with th= is method.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 BIP: XXX =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Laye= r: Consensus (soft fork) =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title: nLockTime signali= ng and flag day activation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Author: /dev/fd0 <alicexbt= @protonmail.com> =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Status: Draft =C2=A0
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Type: Standards Track =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Created: 2024-08= -19 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 License: Public Domain

## Abstract=

This document describes a process to activate soft forks using = flag day after `nLockTime` signaling and discussion.

## Motivati= on

BIP 8 and BIP 9 are controversial. This BIP is an alternative= which addresses the problems with other activation methods.

## = Specification

- Assign numbers to different soft fork proposals = or use their BIP numbers
- Users can broadcast their transactions with= one of these numbers used as `nLockTime` to show support
- Miners inl= cuding a transaction in block would signal readiness for a soft fork
-= Community can analyze these transactions after 3 months and prepare for a = flag day activation of soft fork

Example:
Use 119 to signal= support for OP_CHECKTEMPLATEVERIFY in `nLockTime`

## Reference = implementation

Activation: https://gith= ub.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/ab91bf39b7c11e9c86bb2043c24f0f377f1cf514.diff=

Exclusion in relay or mining: https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/commit/18cd7b0ef6eaeacd06678c6d192= b6cacc9d7eee5.diff

---

If a transaction does not = get included in block for a long time, users can replace it with another tr= ansaction spending same inputs and use a different `nLockTime`.

= /dev/fd0
floppy disk guy

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