From: Sjors Provoost <sjors@sprovoost.nl>
To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Paper Wallet support in bitcoin-core
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:36:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2B95B25F-F47C-4867-A1A6-144200F7B2D4@sprovoost.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96328209-9249-44BC-957A-4EF8DE014E2D@jonasschnelli.ch>
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> Op 30 sep. 2017, om 06:49 heeft Jonas Schnelli via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> het volgende geschreven:
>
>> On 09/29/2017 02:03 PM, Luke Dashjr wrote:
>> Paper wallets are a safety hazard, insecure, and generally not advisable.
>>
>
> I have to agree with Luke.
> And I would also extend those concerns to BIP39 plaintext paper backups.
>
> IMO, private keys should be generated and used (signing) on a trusted, minimal and offline hardware/os. They should never leave the device over the channel used for the signing I/O. Users should have no way to view or export the private keys (expect for the seed backup). Backups should be encrypted (whoever finds the paper backup should need a second factor to decrypt) and the restore process should be footgun-safe (especially the lost-passphrase deadlock).
I believe BIP39 does an excellent job at reducing the amount of bitcoin permanently lost. Stolen funds can at least in theory be retrieved at some future date. There's a trade-off between having a backup process that is secure and one that people actually use. I don't know the right answer, and tend to agree it's better left to individual wallets to decide.
Sjors
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-29 17:29 [bitcoin-dev] Paper Wallet support in bitcoin-core Dan Libby
2017-09-29 18:07 ` Andrew Johnson
2017-09-29 19:34 ` Dan Libby
2017-09-29 20:21 ` Sjors Provoost
2017-09-29 20:13 ` Dan Libby
[not found] ` <201709292103.36630.luke@dashjr.org>
2017-09-29 22:13 ` Dan Libby
2017-09-29 22:19 ` Dan Libby
2017-09-30 4:49 ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-09-30 7:06 ` Dan Libby
2017-09-30 21:14 ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-09-30 23:51 ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-09-30 7:36 ` Sjors Provoost [this message]
2017-09-30 9:35 ` Adam Ritter
2017-09-30 11:10 ` Aymeric Vitte
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