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From: Jonathan Toomim <j@toom.im>
To: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block size: It's economics & user preparation & moral hazard
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:07:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2D7C4E00-7451-45B6-94B6-07A7230FBF88@toom.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPg+sBhxnxnQQ-SpWuJ-+_uxRwXkgcU07jkYdZ8BcBwVDyW-vg@mail.gmail.com>


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On Dec 26, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that's extremely short, even assuming there is no controversy about changing the rules at all. Things like BIP65 and BIP66 already took significantly longer than that, were uncontroversial, and only need miner adoption. Full node adoption is even slower.
> 

BIP65 and BIP66 were uncontroversial, but also generally uninteresting. Most people don't care about OP_CLTV right now, and they won't for quite a while longer. They neglect to upgrade their full nodes because there has been no reason to.

Given that a supermajority of users and miners have been asking for a hard fork to increase the blocksize for years, I do not think that mobilizing people to upgrade their nodes is going to be hard.

When we do the hard fork, we will need to encourage people to upgrade their full nodes. We may want to request that miners not trigger the fork until some percentage of visible full nodes have upgraded.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-26 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16 14:53 [bitcoin-dev] Block size: It's economics & user preparation & moral hazard Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 18:34 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-16 21:08   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 21:11     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-17  2:06       ` Jameson Lopp
2015-12-17 16:58       ` Tier Nolan
2015-12-17 19:44         ` Peter Todd
2015-12-18  5:23           ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-18  9:44           ` Tier Nolan
2015-12-16 21:24     ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-16 21:36       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-18  5:11   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-18  7:56     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-18 10:13       ` sickpig
2015-12-18 15:48         ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-19 19:04           ` Dave Scotese
     [not found]           ` <751DFAA9-9013-4C54-BC1E-5F7ECB7469CC@gmail.com>
2015-12-26 16:44             ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-26 17:20               ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-26 22:55               ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:01                 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-26 23:07                   ` Jonathan Toomim [this message]
2015-12-26 23:16                     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-27  0:03                       ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:15                   ` Justus Ranvier
2015-12-27  0:13                     ` Bryan Bishop
2015-12-27  0:33                       ` Justus Ranvier
2015-12-18 13:56       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-23  6:26   ` Aaron Voisine
2015-12-16 18:36 ` jl2012
2015-12-16 22:27   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-17  6:12     ` Dave Scotese

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