From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14990B5E for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2017 07:41:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pg0-f50.google.com (mail-pg0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56D2D107 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2017 07:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 21so88145082pgg.1 for ; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 00:41:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=voskuil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mESA9yYty9X+EKDe3MHjESmwGg6o93B8blJyHeGRlQ4=; b=ItwaBeBeMkR7w4naVBqIqdcCdNGrAMdCX2Iooc6l6lrlfUPzBQeHj+4d3b60qwKov0 pEaJZHe0ljfHHUcHICARN5VbzcaRurHvXKFFSSq2a0IgpO0gHCXeWFye9va4XR87s8Pf 1V0R3wE44t+pdVOuagW2bjgs1B0IDZIFp9T/aUaSJRP95tDKA4I7KKhFNTxybQAEG+tN WahQscLMjVhL+OaOgjoIGX9qPAYoyltXvh+4CdE2w/ZY+O1JiWs8cqIwPOG54OE/sEI/ tSTZLIQ1QhdRxkWh6fQ3bqBABCk/eXzTVlTQjJgZ7OZCQ7ks5ZpI3HkN/kl1v1+9j/c8 Rm7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mESA9yYty9X+EKDe3MHjESmwGg6o93B8blJyHeGRlQ4=; b=FwojJj8CHi4k/KOtUcF+n/aPUe3eZcFKWCwlG7pLr2IdlbTbv3rzmR1Aagj8Znconf TVUhKOnFCbGyo6FYLwP4PFETpznH539V/uOTEFbG52Ts19lV/omRfeJRMs9Xr3EhnxGs 3gBiUC5P+HMZQ73pW9XIEjmOAnZg9f3GBvigqxPgoNv1L4FXAkBDaoBpz1q7dbztNJhu 0pTvGu2jvZN7/FCQJDv3LimnyFhfsGcdcRT8Y8yKuHNbqNtDTDmMyx5Dt5c69C8Yre6p yns8yocYQJAmrWFga6iwe+MG3/UwKN9zq/c4aSobbPgX+DEQPwjA7xiYhbGqcmrHW92r zf7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1yRDLsD6BKvoHAFamaTW52FD+6JCIkKHzdXK+IrsY7D5E8Nf3oWg8jENR1o6dOFA== X-Received: by 10.84.231.9 with SMTP id f9mr7567284plk.191.1491032479902; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:600:9000:d69e:d0d2:7374:37ba:7134? ([2601:600:9000:d69e:d0d2:7374:37ba:7134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g27sm14301238pfk.95.2017.04.01.00.41.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Apr 2017 00:41:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Jared Lee Richardson , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: <9eb001f8-7623-3c79-41bb-7ed6e45b43ae@voskuil.org> From: Eric Voskuil X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <2a2b6fc0-f800-2646-55b3-1501cb5d5a30@voskuil.org> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 00:41:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 14:35:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Hard fork proposal from last week's meeting X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 07:41:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 03/31/2017 11:18 PM, Jared Lee Richardson wrote: >> If a typical personal computer cannot run a node there is no >> security. > > If you can't describe an attack that is made possible when typical > personal computers can't run nodes, this kind of logic has no place > in this discussion. "Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks..." e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJY31m0AAoJEDzYwH8LXOFOayIH/0DcWukHZUVTV8952mkWnqjS RCM8StQOuuTQ/2elvKoZa/nEv1PvpOQEO/AxJDEdIKOqjdXoc/QdZT/Qj834yyFi mmNLm3x8voO7rTFEVtBrXQ4VYO7Zj5gVy6nRyMrhSGtzg4XqYiyGVoijiumfXOvq ejLwyWJEf8klBwegIPkX4XX6UYjNyBt+E32Je7NxUbi54EPDRszWpEGGKfJrWiCQ JO2jqB3O2RbMd0J1onBt2AGsjeQSE3HO0EBQSkdGQZ7PVSdE3I49uT2aAaScnPOt ymbNz4QtlUWWpUgEI6VSjxHCGjX4+Vrn3HLRwjLe4nS2EX3mOVNY8MHMvbCeAuY= =tD9k -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----