From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E735C0037 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E7660B19 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:11:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org D5E7660B19 Authentication-Results: smtp3.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=dashjr.org header.i=@dashjr.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=zinan header.b=WNXT399p X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rYKsdrHzJV0U for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:11:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 324 seconds by postgrey-1.37 at util1.osuosl.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:11:03 UTC DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org CDD4060B01 Received: from zinan.dashjr.org (zinan.dashjr.org [192.3.11.21]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD4060B01 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.86.103] (99-39-46-195.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net [99.39.46.195]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7004102769; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:05:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=dashjr.org; s=zinan; t=1703207135; bh=H4Y3X328aGs7JYzgj6i65/XS+P5uI1SoQO35TqeOyqc=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=WNXT399pOO9mjZ2A0F5qGx9czBlhBn3mLguDLuvUTf5fdj1R6GU4Erg2cptvISsXQ FlfGP3gO+BKS/KDWvUnDpu3wp78g0y9AC+zK5GmqQTW3HbFyxcPXv5TDVfMlapjLeZ 1aT4JLGnwGj4Lxkcs4hj5NiL5GWqWrdJ+5J8Wv4Y= X-Hashcash: 1:23:231222:alicexbt@protonmail.com::9PpFzN3q0RHW=Kdt:ad5gj X-Hashcash: 1:23:231222:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org::=sp4s/BG05Cj/sT0:nUNk Message-ID: <2e113332-2cfd-73ec-0368-136728ceb31a@dashjr.org> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 20:05:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: en-US, en-GB To: alicexbt , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: <39ecOLU7GJPGc0zWZmGuaj-a4ANySfoRjwxoUoxP480kfRRc_fsPl9MvZDC-0vSfrO3jYraHVUyxWpcg7AFHRJkEJUERYdHZlzimOwql1j0=@protonmail.com> From: Luke Dashjr In-Reply-To: <39ecOLU7GJPGc0zWZmGuaj-a4ANySfoRjwxoUoxP480kfRRc_fsPl9MvZDC-0vSfrO3jYraHVUyxWpcg7AFHRJkEJUERYdHZlzimOwql1j0=@protonmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Swift Activation - CTV X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:11:05 -0000 This IS INDEED an attack on Bitcoin. It does not activate CTV - it would (if users are fooled into using it) give MINERS the OPTION to activate CTV. Nobody should run this, and if it gets any traction, it would behoove the community to develop and run a "URSF" making blocks signalling for it invalid. Luke On 12/19/23 20:44, alicexbt via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Hello World, > > Note: This is not an attack on bitcoin. This is an email with some text and links. Users can decide what works best for themselves. There is also scope for discussion about changing method or params. > > I want to keep it short and no energy left. I have explored different options for activation and this feels the safest at this point in 2023. I have not done any magic or innovation but updated activation params. If you agree with them, please run this client else build your own. Anyone who calls this attack and do not build alternative option is an attack in itself. > > It activates CTV which is simple covenant proposal and achieves what we expect it to. It is upgradeable. I like simple things, at least to start with. > > Activation parameters: > > ``` > consensus.vDeployments[Consensus::DEPLOYMENT_COVTOOLS].nStartTime = 1704067200; > consensus.vDeployments[Consensus::DEPLOYMENT_COVTOOLS].nTimeout = 1727740800; > consensus.vDeployments[Consensus::DEPLOYMENT_COVTOOLS].min_activation_height = 874874; > ``` > > I need payment pools and it does it for me. Apart from that it enables vaults, congestion control etc. We have more PoCs for CTV than we had for taproot and I understand it better. > > If you agree with me, please build and run this client before 01 Jan 2024 else we can discuss ordinals for next 5 years and activate something in 2028. > > Cheers > > /dev/fd0 > floppy disk guy > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >