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Safi via bitcoin-dev" Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:13:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] I want to rebuild the GUI in JavaScript X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:07:40 -0000 You may find my (incomplete) front-end of interest: https://bitcoin.electronrelocation.com The live demo is backed by a -disablewallet node, but it was able to acc= ept payments and send them via QR codes before I stopped development. The source is available via AGPLv3. https://git.esotericnonsense.com/pub/bitcoin-top.git I am unable to continue development due to time constraints. Daniel Edgecumbe | esotericnonsense email@esotericnonsense.com | https://esotericnonsense.com On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, at 17:49, Oscar Lafarga via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Hi MK, >=20 > I very much share your interests and curiosities here and actually=20 > don't have an answer on whether it's been tried before. >=20 > One of the few things I am imagining is that given the security-focuse= d=20 > nature of the Bitcoin Core software, any vulnerabilities in the way NP= M=20 > handles the dependencies of the Electron app would be a very high=20 > priority (see=20 > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/23/npm_left_pad_chaos/)=20 >=20 > In NodeJS-land, my sense is that there is a "move fast and break=20 > things" mentality that may have seeped into some practices that may be= =20 > considered standard. I have seen some recent developments over the pas= t=20 > few years to address these kinds of issues such as npm-audit (as of=20= > Node v6+) but I would recommend doing some thorough research on this=20= > front to make sure there is a secure dependency management solution in= =20 > place for such a GUI. >=20 > Another comment I'd make is that if we consider the GUI as a layer tha= t=20 > is separate from the protocol layer, this mailing list may not be the=20= > best place to fully discuss this. However I think if anyone here who=20= > has been around longer can contribute info on past attempts at this, i= t=20 > could be quite productive. This could technically exist as an=20 > independent client, but I guess there's a conversation on whether this= =20 > new Electron UI would ever replace the Qt UI, but since it doesn't=20 > exist yet it could be far too early for that.=20 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 2:17 PM M.K. Safi via bitcoin-dev=20 > wrote: > > I=E2=80=99d like to try to rebuild Bitcoin Core GUI using the JavaSc= ript Electron framework. My goal is to get a real world understanding of= the pros and cons of moving from Qt to Electron. > >=20 > > Before I start, I=E2=80=98d like to know if this has been tried befo= re or if there are ongoing efforts in this direction by anyone? > >=20 > > I spent sometime looking into how to implement this. One approach co= uld be for Electron to drive the UI by running bitcoind and communicatin= g with it through RPC. But I don=E2=80=99t know if such implementation c= an achieve feature-parity with the Qt implementation. Qt has the advanta= ge of direct access to Bitcoin Core code. > >=20 > > Anyways, I just wanted to share these ideas before going further wit= h them, so please let me know if you have any information on the above! > > --=20 > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > bitcoin-dev mailing list > > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >