From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D37C1C57 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 21:20:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from server3 (server3.include7.ch [144.76.194.38]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F881F6 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 21:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by server3 (Postfix, from userid 115) id 174632D0024F; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:20:45 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from [10.0.1.31] (cable-static-140-182.teleport.ch [87.102.140.182]) by server3 (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 854732D0016B; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:20:43 +0100 (CET) From: Jonas Schnelli Message-Id: <31FB94D1-5B5B-43EF-AFD8-2A7508464F7C@jonasschnelli.ch> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_12E6E0A2-590B-429A-BA62-6D3235F64FC8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:20:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Eric Voskuil References: <30362205-D0CC-46D9-B924-EFA0A6EA1AC9@jonasschnelli.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , Libbitcoin Development Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Unique node identifiers X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 21:20:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_12E6E0A2-590B-429A-BA62-6D3235F64FC8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Am 08.03.2017 um 22:09 schrieb Eric Voskuil : >=20 > On 03/08/2017 11:47 AM, Jonas Schnelli wrote: >>>> Nodes are by design not supposed to be identifiable in any way >>>=20 >>> This is of course my objection to BIP150 ("a way for peers to ... >>> guarantee node ownership=E2=80=9C). >>=20 >> Please Eric. Stop spreading FUD. >=20 > I'm always willing to debate this issue. I'm generally a little > suspicious of one who demands another person to stop arguing. I got at > least one such demand (along with a threat) on this subject privately > last summer from a notable Core dev. There is a lengthy thread on this > subject in which I raised these issues. Everyone is free to review = that > discussion. What you did say in the sentence above (and I think is FUD) is, that = BIP150 will lead to every node being identifiable. This is just = completely wrong. There is nothing to say against a technical debate (and we had this), = but I will ask you to stop if I see you attacking BIP150/151 at every = occasion with FUDish arguments like this. --Apple-Mail=_12E6E0A2-590B-429A-BA62-6D3235F64FC8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEyhopCNzi8TB0xizeHrd2uwPHki0FAljAdacACgkQHrd2uwPH ki2xkBAAkdyaxTXx6LrYukO/YstTCEg5U6L0JAwM2DPTSj+UkkSTteZMb9JyqY/U CFJqGYoOqtF2WiuK/f4tzsIYOrcnxApeYhZLgmWh9UbHIiOKnZLx4uXAUHmp61JG XysDAc8xMl4EIu2/HLcvj0M/pEeZcapD1LP5TM02XRereFmv3gy+JwnBnX2h/Gl/ ARZThkMhcIjAXS61qTVKMlIDSAYK3tobBgY3s3Tz0W/wsRQAuq8PDg/qBb0RKrKN hx1FBz5eeJKqjVkVhKySGC7dUL1cIRPrm1BVsh/sWe5NrBCYM8/rFJLnYo1gOyJs SrMa83+p3TOxeIkrIx37KQixQVNTxnYwbEfAqGrrHu6c9ogp8bCYyKrN4rJ1/W9z PSbWUNCOLAX8Q0SKKq+PCoeRtZrCcxRpQG77joFEbeVlebE6DxwVaL+T7o/JzLML rSWJmnW6GOIx/EVD2U9wEXpF0D0bIo3w8tgXqfBbNDwTEvsr/Yi8JU8/HYtdgB0j HOCHgfHaE3kjQ8UuiYlS6IQzKPN8582s2ztKTIk5MLJKrXeGtPP62oyYAy7Uax0C 9v+gpH7RDpWtISF+mGk6igk2dtAie0t0H77iHk1gwn7W8qriy6hxrc3VzS62xsiu cFby84xq++xUvz0mwLT/NbHgpVAr86tO544Vkp4XbWhszY3L/RA= =D5Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_12E6E0A2-590B-429A-BA62-6D3235F64FC8--