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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com>,
	bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70: why Google Protocol Buffers for encoding?
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:06:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36AE6BD8-D329-46D3-9C11-232C6B1D1CBF@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54BD6314.60607@gmail.com>

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That's 100% true: BIP70 passes around serialized protobuf data that it signs directly for this reason; it could just as easily be a byte array with json in it. (not that json/XML/etc. doesn't have other flaws)


On 19 January 2015 13:03:32 GMT-07:00, Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm a bit confused.  It's been a long time since I looked at protobuf
>(and will have to dig into it soon), but I seem to recall it doesn't
>have any of the determinism properties you guys just said.  It is
>intended to allow you to skip details of the on-the-wire
>representations
>and just send a bunch of named fields between systems.  I thought there
>was no guarantee that two identical protobuf structures will get
>serialized identically...?
>
>
>
>
>On 01/19/2015 02:57 PM, Richard Brady wrote:
>> Thanks guys, great answers.
>>
>> The design choice certainly makes a lot more sense now regardless of
>> whether one agrees with it or not.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-19 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-19 19:07 [Bitcoin-development] BIP70: why Google Protocol Buffers for encoding? Richard Brady
2015-01-19 19:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-19 19:16   ` Richard Brady
2015-01-19 19:34     ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-19 19:48   ` Peter Todd
2015-01-19 19:57     ` Richard Brady
2015-01-19 20:03       ` Alan Reiner
2015-01-19 20:06         ` Peter Todd [this message]
2015-01-19 20:40         ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-19 20:56           ` Gavin Andresen
2015-01-19 21:22             ` Brian Hoffman
2015-01-19 20:59           ` Ross Nicoll
2015-01-24 13:19           ` Isidor Zeuner
2015-01-25 22:59             ` Ross Nicoll
2015-03-14 15:58             ` Isidor Zeuner
2015-03-24 12:08               ` Jorge Timón
2015-01-19 21:21         ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-19 19:19 ` Matt Whitlock
2015-01-19 19:37   ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-19 19:38   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-28 12:45 Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 13:32 ` Wladimir
2015-01-28 14:00   ` Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 15:42     ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 16:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-28 16:52         ` Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 17:29           ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-28 17:45             ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 16:19       ` Giuseppe Mazzotta
2015-01-28 16:51         ` Matt Whitlock
2015-01-28 17:02           ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 16:34       ` Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 16:55         ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 17:04           ` Nicolas Dorier
2015-01-28 17:14             ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 17:17               ` Angel Leon
2015-01-28 17:27               ` Nicolas DORIER

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