From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VHYjl-0008BS-7k for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:32:37 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-yh0-f47.google.com ([209.85.213.47]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1VHYjj-00082D-Hm for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:32:37 +0000 Received: by mail-yh0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 29so477919yhl.20 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 05:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=yBBC35htWjLaLJQ3AVdjytiGa+pe3sX7cjzoBc33pGk=; b=OvxMlogPxEIj8B1K6+4dYPgeaneK6Qiv9Oh+M+trUU4nY6L5Qj079xWH1GFCvkwCLt 1r0BvNCaU2LP4k42uxBH9voB2h48zcJgVbIT96OgQXn/Ago+4tLfeJTiYkNf1SmuvCPt iVFvw0tBMfP6ZlK6Kj4SEheFJohilkgG0SJ67t9k7R7RDzaDAgQiWWLC39zUx5d+9YEw p/Q6C+k3V7mcYKWMdLHDdc3WFgaAPmLD7pBcgpQ92VSWOzn6E2A9gktl7T1pZBIwvLyS GQACKyRg+VuL2pcTrhFdmV+n8bvNkR5XhPhtl0B8DjJs8JQymRgb1CoOspOxGMjmonUN r4iQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnCMXb+HTu+rztdzeNN3QdDkcQD0LopSpYj/oEJWexkEZM8etL46kTp1uGRfUYZMNZswlAS X-Received: by 10.236.138.194 with SMTP id a42mr8125437yhj.58.1378383007344; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 05:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bolobolo2.torservers.net. [96.47.226.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g22sm35466233yhm.26.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Sep 2013 05:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Wendell Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Wendell In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:09:55 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <40424BD6-6EF1-454E-AA9F-6AF4C723A4BE@grabhive.com> References: <879EBFD7-3047-4ECD-B03B-941857F7970C@grabhive.com> <36036B83-CD26-497F-BC5A-FD69DAFF578C@grabhive.com> To: Mike Hearn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1VHYjj-00082D-Hm Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] An "app store" and non-network transaction fees X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:32:37 -0000 On Sep 5, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Wendell wrote: >> Funny you should mention it! I just mocked this idea up last week, = though I assumed a cruder system of "voting" to an address that = corresponds to a feature -- literally, voting with your wallet (for your = wallet, ad infinitum). I watched your talk about assurance contracts and = other "hidden" features, but am not entirely sure that I understood it = enough to know how it would work in this context. Sorry for the = persistent hand-holding requests, but some advice would be very welcome. >=20 > Well, it's a bit complicated and needs some software development to do = well. The best way to fund a complex project would be to raise the money = using an assurance contr.... oh wait ;) Well, let's assume that our "public good" is based on the 5-step model = described here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts#Example_3:_Assurance_contracts This good corresponds to something like "Facebook contact = synchronization" and has a target of 50 BTC, though we also want to be = able to take more if people are willing to give it. =46rom here, it is unfortunately a little over our collective heads; we = have as of yet no experience with the scripting language. I suppose I'm = trying to twist your arm for an example, and maybe an anecdote. How = would we do it? Does it require the donors to do anything esoteric? I = saw "but they do not broadcast it" -- does this happen automatically = when coins are sent to that address, for example? Confused but enthusiastic, -wendell grabhive.com | twitter.com/grabhive | gpg: 6C0C9411