From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98582B68 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:34:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx-out02.mykolab.com (mx.kolabnow.com [95.128.36.1]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2119D0 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:34:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kolabnow.com X-Spam-Score: -2.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from mx03.mykolab.com (mx03.mykolab.com [10.20.7.101]) by mx-out02.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4587461781; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:34:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Tom Zander To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, "Raystonn ." Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:34:45 +0200 Message-ID: <42619430.6XQoorDgjR@strawberry> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:57:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Hard fork proposal from last week's meeting X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:34:50 -0000 On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 21:50:48 CEST Raystonn . via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Low node costs are a good goal for nodes that handle transactions the node > operator can afford. Nobody is going to run a node for a network they do > not use for their own transactions. If transactions have fees that > prohibit use for most economic activity, that means node count will drop > until nodes are generally run by those who settle large amounts. That is > very centralizing. >=20 > Raystonn The idea that people won=E2=80=99t run a node for a network they don=E2=80= =99t use for their=20 own transactions is a very good observation and a good reason to get on- chain scaling happening well before lightning hits.=20 =2D-=20 Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel