From: Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Addressing rapid changes in mining power
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:35:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ECD12AA.6080605@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABsx9T0VH5i0HrEjxfxxtzO2MtmN7UEyAUXoq9puc-1nKw3G4Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I can substantiate Gavin's point quite powerfully: a couple months ago I
did a search for the "hardest" block in the network and found a *very
**impressive* one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29675.0
That block has a difficulty of **36 billion** when the network had a
difficulty of **1.5 million**, which is 24,000 times harder than the
target. If we were going by the /actual /hardest chain instead
target-based-hardest chain, /then this block produced in July would
might still represent the longest chain!/
Yes, that means that whichever miner produced this block, could've held
onto it for 2-4 months without doing anything else, and then broadcast
it to fork the blockchain from a block produced months ago. That's not
theoretical, that's real data in the blockchain and it would be a disaster.
-Alan
On 11/23/2011 10:09 AM, Gavin Andresen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Christian Decker
> <decker.christian@gmail.com> wrote:
>> At some point you might find an incredibly hard block that makes your forked
>> chain the hardest one in the network
> Seems to me that's the real problem with any "hardest block found in X
> minutes" scheme.
>
> If I get lucky and find a really extremely hard block then I have an
> incentive to keep it secret and build a couple more blocks on top of
> it, then announce them all at the same time.
>
> If the rest of the network rejects my longer chain because I didn't
> announce the extremely hard block in a timely fashion... then how
> could the network ever recover from a real network split? A network
> split/rejoin will look exactly the same.
>
> Bitcoin as-is doesn't have the "I got lucky and found an extremely
> hard block" problem because the difficulty TARGET is used to compute
> chain difficulty, not the actual hashes found.
>
>
> ---
>
> PS: I proposed a different method for dealing with large hash power
> drops for the testnet on the Forums yesterday, and am testing it
> today.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-23 15:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-23 10:35 [Bitcoin-development] Addressing rapid changes in mining power Andy Parkins
2011-11-23 11:25 ` Jorge Timón
2011-11-23 11:30 ` Andy Parkins
2011-11-23 11:51 ` Jorge Timón
2011-11-23 12:10 ` Christian Decker
2011-11-23 13:13 ` Andy Parkins
2011-11-23 14:38 ` Christian Decker
2011-11-23 15:09 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-11-23 15:35 ` Alan Reiner [this message]
2011-11-23 15:39 ` Andy Parkins
2011-11-23 16:26 ` Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
2011-11-23 15:11 ` Andy Parkins
2011-11-23 12:54 ` Andy Parkins
2011-11-23 15:10 ` Jorge Timón
2011-11-23 15:29 ` Andy Parkins
2011-11-23 15:38 ` Jorge Timón
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