From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RaIHZ-0002Wh-ER for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:39:53 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from sulfur.webpack.hosteurope.de ([217.115.142.104]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1RaIHX-0005wD-Mi for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:39:53 +0000 Received: from 84-72-69-153.dclient.hispeed.ch ([84.72.69.153] helo=[192.168.0.21]); authenticated by sulfur.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id 1RaIHR-0005NX-LN; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:39:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4EE6BAEE.6010208@justmoon.de> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:39:42 +0100 From: Stefan Thomas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: <1323731781.42953.YahooMailClassic@web120920.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <201112121841.39864.luke@dashjr.org> In-Reply-To: <201112121841.39864.luke@dashjr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;moon@justmoon.de;1323743991;67e846a5; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1RaIHX-0005wD-Mi Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] [BIP 15] Aliases X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:39:53 -0000 >> Would it be too strange to use namecoin? > This has the same problem as FirstBits, except .bit domains are dirt cheap, > whereas vanitygen at least slows down grabbing all the common words... Grabbing is no more an issue than mining Bitcoins is an issue. Sure, domain grabbers will have the domains first, but they want to profit and therefore are willing to sell them for whatever price they can get. Just like the trading of any other limited resource, this process sounds like somebody is getting rich for nothing, but it does tend to put the limited resources to good use as people who waste good domains can't afford them in the long run. The problem with Firstbits is that the names already grabbed have fixed private keys that are known by their originators. That makes the names untradable. This may be fixable with split keys, but a lot of "good" 1firstbits are already made useless in this way. Names in Namecoin can be transferred/traded securely, strong cryptography is built in and it shares mining without bloating the Bitcoin block chain. I see it as a decentralized DNS alternative at a time when domain seizures are on the rise, even absent any court order. So I would use one of the DNS-based solutions that Amir suggested and simply require standard-compliant clients to be able to look up .bit (i.e. Namecoin) domains as well. That way we have a pragmatic solution, but one that also provides security and true decentralization for the more paranoid of our users. On 12/13/2011 12:41 AM, Luke-Jr wrote: > On Monday, December 12, 2011 6:37:56 PM Jorge Timón wrote: >> Would it be too strange to use namecoin? > This has the same problem as FirstBits, except .bit domains are dirt cheap, > whereas vanitygen at least slows down grabbing all the common words... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 > Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for > developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it > provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. > Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >