From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V62hq-0000wD-Gz for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:07:02 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.53; envelope-from=etotheipi@gmail.com; helo=mail-qa0-f53.google.com; Received: from mail-qa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.216.53]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1V62ho-0008JE-Pe for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:07:02 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id hu14so576924qab.12 for ; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.74.102 with SMTP id s6mr22228924qev.24.1375639615314; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.85] (c-76-111-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net. [76.111.96.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id om8sm2030675qeb.4.2013.08.04.11.06.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51FE9834.7090007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:06:44 -0400 From: Alan Reiner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050809000905080302010604" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (etotheipi[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1V62ho-0008JE-Pe Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Preparing for the Cryptopocalypse X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:07:02 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050809000905080302010604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is a great presentation, thanks for sharing that! Though I question the validity of the claim that ECC is so much more secure than RSA (with appropriate keysizes). My experience from studying quantum computing is that Factoring and DLP are intimately related, such that a break of one is likely to break the other. In fact, I seem to remember that QCs use an efficient DLP-solving circuit to "shortcut" the factoring problem. But it's been a long time since I looked at it, so I don't remember for sure. Also, it's not clear whether that relationship exists outside the scope of QCs. It's still a good presentation, but they're pushing ECC pretty hard as the answer to the cryptopocalypse, and I'm not convinced that's a real answer. -Alan On 08/04/2013 01:13 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > A great presentation on advances in crypto > > http://www.slideshare.net/astamos/bh-slides > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your SQL database under version control now! > Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent > caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under > version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=49501711&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development --------------050809000905080302010604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is a great presentation, thanks for sharing that!

Though I question the validity of the claim that ECC is so much more secure than RSA (with appropriate keysizes).  My experience from studying quantum computing is that Factoring and DLP are intimately related, such that a break of one is likely to break the other.  In fact, I seem to remember that QCs use an efficient DLP-solving circuit to "shortcut" the factoring problem.  But it's been a long time since I looked at it, so I don't remember for sure.   Also, it's not clear whether that relationship exists outside the scope of QCs.

It's still a good presentation, but they're pushing ECC pretty hard as the answer to the cryptopocalypse, and I'm not convinced that's a real answer.

-Alan



On 08/04/2013 01:13 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
A great presentation on advances in crypto

http://www.slideshare.net/astamos/bh-slides


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