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[71.131.180.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eg8sm219292obd.6.2013.11.14.15.11.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:11:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5285589E.10707@monetize.io> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:11:26 -0800 From: Mark Friedenbach Organization: Monetize.io Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: <528547FD.2070300@gmail.com> <201311142301.39550.luke@dashjr.org> In-Reply-To: <201311142301.39550.luke@dashjr.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: enigmail.net] 0.0 T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT Fill in a short form with personal information X-Headers-End: 1Vh64V-0002hz-1x Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:11:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/14/13 3:01 PM, Luke-Jr wrote: > I think we all know the problems with the term "address". People > naturally compare it to postal addresses, email addresses, etc, > which operate fundamentally different. I suggest that we switch to > using "invoice id" to refer to what is now known as addresses, as > that seems to get the more natural understanding to people. On the > other hand, with the advent of the payment protocol, perhaps > address/invoice id use will die out soon? > > Thoughts? "key id" (thanks sipa). I know it's a more technical term, but that is rather the point. It was a fundamental error to call hashed-pubkeys "addresses" as people either associate this with "account" or physical addresses, which also rarely change. Security and privacy guarantees of the system are defeated when key pairs are reused. We should ideally adopt terminology that lead people to associations of ephemeral, temporary use. "key id" is at least neutral in this regard. Can anyone think of something better? 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