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From: Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] MtGox blames bitcoin
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:45:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F91E66.6060305@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140210182506.GM3180@nl.grid.coop>

You have plenty of good points, but they are not relevant to this mailing list. I suggest you take them elsewhere.
--
Jameson Lopp
Software Engineer
Bronto Software, Inc

On 02/10/2014 01:25 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 08:45:03AM -0800, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@hozed.org> wrote:
>>> Name me one single person with commit access to the bitcoin github repository
>>> who is *independent* of any venture capital or other 'investment' connections.
>>
>> I am, unless you count the fact that I own some Bitcoin and some
>> mining hardware as "'investment' connections" (and that case your
>> comments are worthless).
>>
>> (By not naming anyone else I don't mean to imply there are no others,
>> but I don't want to speak for anyone else. Nor would I necessarily
>> expect the other part(ies|y) to step forward, since this mostly
>> appears to be an invitation to step up and be attacked.)
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> I also appreciate your commentary[1], and willingness to list your investment
> position. What I'm concerned about are people who have signed non-disclosure 
> agreements or who's salary/equity/whatever depend on people who are experts
> at manipulating markets to take naive investors money.
> 
> Independent is also a state of mind as much as it is about financial connections.
> 
> What pisses me off here is that a huge amount of wealth just changed hands based
> on MtGox's press release, and it stinks of insider trading. I still maintain the
> best outcome would be for MtGox to AGPLv3 release their code, and then those of 
> us that understand it would be able to have a public technical discussion about
> how to fix it, and MtGox would still maintain their intellectual property
> ownership position.
> 
> This, however, cuts off a significant revenue stream for people who take money
> making market bets 5 minutes before the information goes public, so I expect
> the likelyhood of such an outbreak of sanity is quite low.
> 
> [1] http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
> 
> 
> DISCLAIMER: I have a significant emotional investment in copyleft/viral copyright
> development models, and I expect to take a lot of money charging people to write
> code I give away for free. I also occasionally make money from cryptocurrency
> mining, but only when I can sell it in functional and transparent markets.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-10 11:28 [Bitcoin-development] MtGox blames bitcoin Drak
2014-02-10 11:54 ` sickpig
2014-02-10 12:25 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-02-10 14:40 ` Isidor Zeuner
2014-02-10 16:30   ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-02-10 16:45     ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-02-10 18:25       ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-02-10 18:45         ` Jameson Lopp [this message]
2014-02-10 18:53           ` Gavin Andresen
2014-02-10 19:07           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-02-10 19:23             ` Peter Todd
2014-02-10 19:30               ` naman naman
2014-02-10 19:40                 ` Peter Todd
     [not found]                   ` <52F9377D.9010405@gmail.com>
2014-02-11 20:42                     ` naman naman
2014-02-11 20:49                       ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-02-11 20:56                         ` naman naman
2014-02-13 12:20                           ` naman naman
2014-02-10 16:49   ` Drak

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