From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WXBFs-00006W-QH for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:14:36 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXBFr-0007Jr-36 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:14:36 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id up15so6801232pbc.6 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:14:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QlJKY78psyka+2B4w9p5mskdds7TEBd+6WYzt2O6+yo=; b=U55kxKvhlUJWf5pwVZ/olrZqNezfxZzcQFh4tikuVBJxhi19SL2GAus/fzQtWnkUIT v085p+05ukcK6yo2Y2cFgD/nxKUceSZ/C/vX6m022PSoVeDTnDLYbpKAn0uc3bvsC1N/ hU8M4YDZtVJ1px1vkdod2ZCVh87IdToqwWi1OhgqoTvUb52WmvqaM8z7ymyqpjkgMa5l au+Dia2ltYw90i4Hhu8VtJgqI9U6c0K0nTTsLMo+zToF0EEjXMEnKvUGlhQt1jP2S83s jqI79YFX9uMUzguqdtZbKT6uHWWh/M9Ixn04vTjOfCkrOppFWsfyg+84Qf56bJN0iezq eK9g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkLRz6tPwq72WbyfnhGPluPqcsTPk0coO5FcIqUb4S2xmq7s1wWAtP+PZENGAI4GuOkCYjb X-Received: by 10.66.164.201 with SMTP id ys9mr1688337pab.40.1396881971778; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.84] (99-6-44-248.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [99.6.44.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id id10sm37298553pbc.35.2014.04.07.07.46.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5342BA0D.7010800@thinlink.com> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:45:33 -0700 From: Tom Harding User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1WXBFr-0007Jr-36 Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:14:36 -0000 On 4/7/2014 7:05 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: > Some days I wonder if Bitcoin will be killed off by people who just > refuse to use it properly before it ever gets a chance to shine. The > general public doesn't distinguish between "Bitcoin users" who deposit > with a third party and the real Bitcoin users who don't. > A Mt-Gox-scale incident was inevitable and there are probably more hard lessons in the future. But it has made bitcoin much better already. I'm referring to things like malleability fixes, cleaning house at the foundation, and public education (hard as the lesson was). A lot more people than before understand the distinction you're making, and they are sharing the lesson.