From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WXCOD-0001mW-KI for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:27:17 +0000 Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.220.53]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXCOB-0006vn-FP for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:27:17 +0000 Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id ld10so6905825pab.26 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wlCuuL+wTVJAK1M/zg5fQNv+IsVqf0KxXZKjKD46Vv8=; b=Cmbc1NOlaWaNvCP1tVAyPYe79leg8QgvsIQKqh011dvcX32GDVHMsxttbneu50xLJA ZHJAjhKaWjdybKXxcUU59cruBRGPmt+4/PnYHhlUQdv2/iXN0cir5h+sDv+OxqLLOZOf uJhHd0LE6acwKZI4WXZdnPSeeTWj6uWFtRER8Nn5jkMHUt9pant4BaywOIObTDavGrjJ wLqRHLK8ZiI8/jV9ZAAoZJ8w3S94TmCOaElXezvJONRVHy2ka5IW2lNGpZC/srfFx/UL jPLMUerK+mSxapq16LN51XC5Zwv5w1uJg511WhMrOWg6WuSaSv9Tt84a/3LJ7sbmPaJB c8Cg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkYYE/VdNMraobzJs6S7QV5brgldF0f0FjZkU3huEexNE2Vtfk64JV8dT78m51pchD57K4/ X-Received: by 10.66.164.229 with SMTP id yt5mr32036430pab.67.1396888029452; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.127.194] (50-0-36-93.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net. [50.0.36.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sv10sm30491512pbc.74.2014.04.07.09.27.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5342D1DB.8060203@monetize.io> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:27:07 -0700 From: Mark Friedenbach Organization: Monetize.io Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: <5342C833.5030906@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1WXCOB-0006vn-FP Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:27:17 -0000 Right now running a full-node on my home DSL connection (<1Mbps) makes other internet activity periodically unresponsive. I think we've already hit a point where resource requirements are pushing out casual users, although of course we can't be certain that accounts for all lost nodes. On 04/07/2014 08:53 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Justus Ranvier wrote: >> 1. The resource requirements of a full node are moving beyond the >> capabilities of casual users. This isn't inherently a problem - after >> all most people don't grow their own food, tailor their own clothes, or >> keep blacksmith tools handy in to forge their own horseshoes either. > > Right now running a full node consumes about $1 in disk space > non-reoccurring and costs a couple cents in power per month. > > This isn't to say things are all ducky. But if you're going to say the > resource requirements are beyond the capabilities of casual users I'm > afraid I'm going to have to say: citation needed. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Put Bad Developers to Shame > Dominate Development with Jenkins Continuous Integration > Continuously Automate Build, Test & Deployment > Start a new project now. Try Jenkins in the cloud. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13600_Cloudbees_APR > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > . >