From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WaRVv-0007eg-Ae for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:12:39 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.216.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.176; envelope-from=kevinsisco61784@gmail.com; helo=mail-qc0-f176.google.com; Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WaRVu-0008EY-Aq for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:12:39 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id m20so11935754qcx.7 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:12:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.25.247 with SMTP id 110mr3524648qgt.83.1397661152799; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.115] (ool-43521013.dyn.optonline.net. [67.82.16.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 1sm43947926qav.34.2014.04.16.08.12.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534E9DDC.7000502@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:12:28 -0400 From: Kevin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050306020706060401000202" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (kevinsisco61784[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (kevinsisco61784[at]gmail.com) 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WaRVu-0008EY-Aq Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in Windows XP (or drop support?) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:12:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050306020706060401000202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote: > Hello, > > Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet > banking with Windows XP. > > If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not > secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as > they have no keys to protect). > > Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to > continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on > bitcoin.org ? (Microsoft uses > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help) > > The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of > computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP, > so this could cause the network to lose nodes. > > If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this? > Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when? > > Regards, > Wladimir > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech > > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development I think we should get to the bottom of this. Should we assume that xp is not secure enough? What is this warning? Who is issuing this warning? -- Kevin --------------050306020706060401000202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:
Hello,

Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet banking with Windows XP.

If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they have no keys to protect).

Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on bitcoin.org? (Microsoft uses http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help)

The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP, so this could cause the network to lose nodes.

If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this?
Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when?

Regards,
Wladimir



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I think we should get to the bottom of this.  Should we assume that xp is not secure enough?  What is this warning?  Who is issuing this warning?


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