From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WmUxh-0007rR-29 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 19 May 2014 21:19:09 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.213.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.181; envelope-from=justusranvier@gmail.com; helo=mail-ig0-f181.google.com; Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com ([209.85.213.181]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WmUxg-00022j-20 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 19 May 2014 21:19:09 +0000 Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id h3so4095382igd.14 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 14:19:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.43.151.209 with SMTP id kt17mr36077459icc.2.1400534342137; Mon, 19 May 2014 14:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.fuckthenavy.net ([149.255.33.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ql7sm23684206igc.19.2014.05.19.14.19.00 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 May 2014 14:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.202.101] (unknown [192.96.200.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.fuckthenavy.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E82D226254; Mon, 19 May 2014 21:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <537A753E.60200@localhost.local> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 23:18:54 +0200 From: Justus Ranvier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Maxwell , Justus Ranvier References: <537A630D.104@localhost.local> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=38450DB5; url=http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC3F7BB2638450DB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (justusranvier[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WmUxg-00022j-20 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 21:19:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2014 11:07 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > I promise that if bad people show up with a sufficient pointy gun > that I'll do whatever they tell me to do. I'll make bad proposals, > submit backdoors, and argue with querulous folks on mailing lists, > diverting them from real development and review work, all as > commanded. Maybe I'll try to sneak out a warning of some kind, > maybe... but with my life or my families or friends lives on the > line— probably not. > > ... and I think that anyone who tells you otherwise probably just > hasn't really thought it through. So what is the point of > commitments like that? People change, people go crazy, people are > coerced. Crap happens, justifications are made, life goes on— or so > we hope. I presume you're familiar with the concept of a warrant canary, so presumably you'd also see why public statements such as I was discussing would be similarly useful. Social contracts make it more difficult to hide coercion, which serves no one except the attackers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTenU+AAoJEMP3uyY4RQ21P1UH/2fvYa7Hfv53eXA0k9appRVI 8KWpH2D95zCo/s6kIeKZtmEzhFWFkKxOHwiHZbD5JokG+U/vUeR8p+SxF1/xUc1X 1tTNAjfAALz0/KzjPKmlMQCqM5vT4yumHsDusqPuzbPFnJnwFufrAW9vWu9OJacs JEv4yoRGNZhR+eM8hCUkDfTtj7D8J3gMYyYds7K4kppiHN2UPRgZT6TCVyCRlThe 8w9MzYoTAf1WXPmzvSfPhzKMfNV9Y+tjt6ZV+KyLG1ZGLw2EDCxJR1O23QQE8IfK 53I2RgeFnvcdceoExSfYJj+kNpbPQ/WDVszswO5esoMWJ/E3j5PCBsLdGt+8e7I= =BysA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----