From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Yvioi-0007d4-Q0 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 22 May 2015 09:00:32 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from server3.include7.ch ([144.76.194.38] helo=server3) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1Yvioh-0000HA-5W for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 22 May 2015 09:00:32 +0000 Received: by server3 (Postfix, from userid 115) id 858202D00704; Fri, 22 May 2015 11:00:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on server3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from Jonass-MacBook-Pro.local (cable-static-140-182.teleport.ch [87.102.140.182]) by server3 (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A1D82D001E5 for ; Fri, 22 May 2015 11:00:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <555EF028.2010302@jonasschnelli.ch> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 11:00:24 +0200 From: Jonas Schnelli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Helo-Check: bad, Not FQDN (server3) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 0.5 VA_HELO_CHECK Host Used Invalid or Forged HELO/EHLO X-Headers-End: 1Yvioh-0000HA-5W Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Virtual Notary. X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 09:00:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > * proof of Bitcoin funds (without revealing public addresses or=20 > fund location on the blockchain) >=20 > * proof of Bitcoin address ownership >=20 > * proof of Tweet >=20 > * proof of real estate value >=20 > * proof of DNS ownership >=20 > * proof of existence >=20 > * proof of web page contents >=20 > * proof of weather conditions >=20 > The factoids can be recorded on the blockchain (if you pay for the=20 > transaction with Bitcoin or PayPal), or they can be part of a free=20 > attestation chain that we maintain. The website provides a=20 > permanent URL to the factoids it generates; it also provides an=20 > X.509 certificate that you can download and keep safe in=20 > perpetuity, independent of the website. Hi Emin This is going into the right direction. Well done! The certificates (X.509/p12) are far more enduser-friendly than just a normal PoE hash. Your site needs some UX love and i just tried to OR_RETURN a Email-Address-Verification. But after creating a 0.0001 tx and waiting for two confirmations it still said that the payment has not yet been received. There is probably something broken regarding the bitcoin payment verification. The weather and real estate notarization definitively needs a =E2=80=9EUS only=E2=80=9C badge somewhere. Two ideas: - - Maybe adding a way of decentralize your notary service log via a opensource p2p daemon (obviously sensitive data should be somehow encrypted)? - - Adding a opensource UI app to examine certs (maybe offline capable with p2p daemon chain as mentioned above). This could prove independence from your website/service. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVXvAoAAoJECnUvLZBb1PsJpsQAKRYDUTUYA59765w0jbBlK+S ArxpaxwPmG7ZLhDYoTHJ/welvXsMSzREZrJNKYl7LBHQBPldeTRQHfHwH05qiwBL H5rC+BTyaglud3x7Bxo0fNrXJB4tkfX2ykPJs+2bqPi9OE0uVlXi2Vh/6cV1U/Uq RWRfpa19GnSE7IRft5G19FVsG8hrrpuLhzVraAQeZTLyGBKd+hlpjI/qr6TOl8ra 5K3bFb2J1+UoaFXLlKCSsSx+9PsydlcJFwnr2H/Z7r1M39j5XYag3Ba6W58ats4z 6DCTL1xRVOCTNDbVgkYzZUDCtv5oDspQ2S0nauJLDVz5ADUaZ+bsmBFwseo+XuZV TLUxsYfPsqEzUKF2a7ZfMjQG0EUx8oh5DU+o1F5wcBSXDOM+ucdOGYbMrBMV1i9W GoPUN1QPkqfUTTRiYYnzP2ySyPUoJqZrcwEB7E7nV8O2xE4Q00zCDlOSqU8aVl7j 9lIs/sTpcK5S0kFfc68n6NVlWYU+CBdGlnmvMdbEkydV2P3ft1+THqQ8LNiYRhWX 7kHzgG58yUQjvgsOEEb4xTXgA5u4euxBVY+SwKN6cTXA7dWg1s39UEJroaKuXYN5 iZTj2XkBtD+pwtUPIMs79Kb2/PZRGy7SJui2RbExFX1/8oBbHRV5Ii6+MNw11RNz RTV0kHof6+6u1BFYHTFX =3DUmgJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----