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From: Venzen Khaosan <venzen@mail.bihthai.net>
To: Michael Naber <mickeybob@gmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block size increase oppositionists: please clearly define what you need done to increase block size to a static 8MB, and help do it
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:15:31 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5592C0A3.8050008@mail.bihthai.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALgxB7uvtKCNM-nH+aqqPa4KNf5O6Gx4GmgZY7Oq8=A24wCrfA@mail.gmail.com>

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Michael, I snipped some of your comparison example to comment. I agree
with your sentiment to lobby for testing the change and your offer to
provide resources, yet it presents some (surmountable) challenges:

On 06/30/2015 10:34 PM, Michael Naber wrote:
> As you know I'm trying to lobby for a block size increase to a
> static 8MB.
> 
> I'm happy to try to get the testing done that people want done for
> this, but I think the real crux of this issue is that we need to
> get consensus that we intend to continually push the block size
> upward as bounded only by technology.

Peter Todd, on 23/06/15, proposed a combined back-test and ongoing
forward test as follows:

"... the creation (via reorg) of a realistic full-load blockchain on
testnet to fully test the real-world behavior of the entire
infrastructure ecosystem, including questions like the scalability of
block explorers, SPV wallets, feasibility of initial syncronization,
scalability of the UTXO set, etc. While this is of course inconvenient
- - 2 years of 8MB blocks is 840GB worth of data..."

So, with a working dataset of that size, jumping to 8MB is excluding a
lot of participants and contributors to the testing - someone like
myself for example.

> Do what's best for Bitcoin and define what needs to get done to
> agree to a simple block size increase to a static 8MB.

And this then leads back to the core issue: if an 8MB blocksize
excludes many on this list from testnet, then the proposed 8MB blocks
will exclude a lot of mainnet participants (miners) and degrade the
quality of diversity and decentralization.

How about testing at double the capacity: 2MB?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-30 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-30 15:34 [bitcoin-dev] Block size increase oppositionists: please clearly define what you need done to increase block size to a static 8MB, and help do it Michael Naber
2015-06-30 16:03 ` Richard Moore
2015-06-30 16:15 ` Venzen Khaosan [this message]
2015-06-30 16:25   ` Peter Todd
2015-06-30 16:35     ` Michael Naber
2015-06-30 19:59       ` Bryan Cheng

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