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From: Justus Ranvier <justus@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Why not Child-Pays-For-Parent?
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:02:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <559FFAB3.2010309@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADm_WcYQLzqQLY-Dspd1jUtF9Z=_721TReoc_eKYk5JCQ4fejg@mail.gmail.com>


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On 07/10/2015 11:31 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> This is a good explanation but it does not address reachability.  TX_a, the
> first tx sent out on the network, presumably has insufficient fee to get
> mined - which also means it did not necessarily even reach all miners.
> 
> Simply sending out TX_b with added fee does not guarantee that nodes
> suddenly have TX_a, which they may have ignored/dropped before.

I'm not sure why that's actually a problem.

CPFP is initiated by the recipient of the parent transaction, and so if
the recipient is creating this transaction in the first place they must
have a copy of the parent transaction which can/should broadcast at the
same time.

If the child reaches a CPFP miner, then presumably the parents made it
as well (any path between the sender and the miner that doesn't relay
the parent should reject the child as trying to spend non-existent
coins), so both of the transactions can be mined at the same time.

-- 
Justus Ranvier
Open Bitcoin Privacy Project
http://www.openbitcoinprivacyproject.org/
justus@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-10 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-10 16:09 [bitcoin-dev] Why not Child-Pays-For-Parent? Richard Moore
2015-07-10 16:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-07-10 16:25   ` Richard Moore
2015-07-10 16:26     ` Dan Bryant
2015-07-10 16:28 ` Tier Nolan
2015-07-10 16:31   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-07-10 17:02     ` Justus Ranvier [this message]
2015-07-10 17:16       ` Dan Bryant
2015-07-10 17:51       ` Alex Morcos
2015-07-10 19:39         ` Tier Nolan
2015-07-10 21:10           ` Luke Dashjr
2015-07-11 20:28             ` Micha Bailey
2015-07-11 21:30               ` Dan Bryant
2015-07-11 22:29                 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-07-12 10:18                   ` Matt Whitlock
2015-07-11 23:19                 ` Tier Nolan
2015-07-10 17:28     ` Tier Nolan

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