From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B13A79F2 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:57:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.help.org (mail.help.org [70.90.2.18]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A5DC1D3 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.10.25] (B [10.1.10.25]) by mail.help.org with ESMTPA ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:57:33 -0400 References: <24662b038abc45da7f3990e12a649b8a@airmail.cc> <55A66FA9.4010506@thinlink.com> <20150715151825.GB20029@savin.petertodd.org> <20150715155903.GC20029@savin.petertodd.org> <55A68668.6@bitcoins.info> <20150715193259.GC3064@muck> From: Milly Bitcoin To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Message-ID: <55A6BB27.6000003@bitcoins.info> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:57:27 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150715193259.GC3064@muck> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Significant losses by double-spending unconfirmed transactions X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:57:35 -0000 > (note how Chainalysis's actions were > described(1) as a sybil attack by multiple Bitcoin devs, including > Gregory Maxwell, Wladimir van der Laan, and myself) As far as I know none of those people are security experts nor do they engage in systematic risk and threat analysis. Simply because they are experts in Bitcoin development does not make them expert in other areas. Many of those involved in Bitcoin think that because they know Bitcoin that they somehow have become experts in other areas. That is one reason why so many Bitcoin companies have been hacked. An "attack" according to ISO/IEC 27000 "is any attempt to destroy, expose, alter, disable, steal or gain unauthorized access to or make unauthorized use of an asset." The situation you are describing is not an "attack," they are providing a service. Satoshi Dice is also not "spam," it is again providing a service within the rules set forth in the software. The people going around claiming these are "spam" and "attacks" spend too much time of Reddit or they have an ulterior motive. In any case these baseless accusations and arguments waste inordinate amounts of time. Russ