From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A52E7516 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CEE425F for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pacan13 with SMTP id an13so4398727pac.1 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:20:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9w87DkxJd+vGKoW7a5tYTDBjAsKEOLcxwZgXnoXIXAo=; b=DXVGWr5asJ3qPLlgwP4oPupLohgRPxHKGQ+f0aZzNPfwOXwJQJU7oa5WJ44VjmqjIM mX1tEynhbzAQ3JQ0iVCDycUGZaj/cYzXKrb2wiR4LG1j/YNT3HL3/hj6xzEvdwwozApY Vbfu9tsMR5GCKupc3taUslHypb3cmM3+c4gbh1rC2fsQyogUx96Ukws8c7lmV8pF/kCJ DTij72DwRjDnIpxmP/DoITdID2Ps2l8eG18EH6MfA18++WIxucnTIXLsKj3eXpgT0L4J JK7toUwGmlEhcDGOQV+hWgosFkEiO7g0Zn+sLtAK8DmxG1aspPD8flW80vFWRwd4LBuG ufJg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnRLRdTiQK/VTFkIS1kT63xPeOzACYT6t+bidPVs97Y/Iz+4DqqJzFbj+3arCsLZndvSLUP X-Received: by 10.66.66.163 with SMTP id g3mr1011586pat.85.1437697243860; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.22.196] (199-83-220-245.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net. [199.83.220.245]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id ti10sm11090198pab.20.2015.07.23.17.20.38 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55B184D5.2010100@bitcartel.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:20:37 -0700 From: Simon Liu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org References: <55B113AF.40500@thinlink.com> <6F436293-9E2B-461C-B105-FC4CF9EBFC69@gmail.com> <42BF7FEB-320F-43BE-B3D9-1D76CB8B9975@gmai l.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:20:44 -0000 Increasing the block size does not hinder research and development of Lightning or other technologies. On 07/23/2015 05:04 PM, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I should also add that I think those who claim that fee pressure will > scare away users and break the industry are *seriously* underestimating > human ingenuity in the face of a challenge. We can do this - we can > overcome this obstacle…we can find good solutions to a fee market. > Unless someone can come up with another way to pay for the operation of > the network, we NEED to do this. What makes anyone think it will be > easier to do later rather than now? The longer we wait, the lower block > rewards get, the larger the deployed infrastructure, the larger our > userbase, the HARDER it will be to solve it. We should solve it now - we > will be much better off for it…and so will our users. >