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From: Milly Bitcoin <milly@bitcoins.info>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn't temporary
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:15:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55BABE17.7050900@bitcoins.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25FD9AAD-99F5-4322-AF34-243F75AE82C4@gmail.com>

These are the types of things I have been discussing in relation to a 
process:

-A list of metrics
-A Risk analysis of the baseline system.  Bitcoin as it is now.
-Mitigation strategies for each risk.
-A set of goals.
-A Road map for each goal that lists the changes or possible avenues to 
achieve that goal.

Proposed changes would be measured against the same metrics and a risk 
analysis done so it can be compared with the baseline.

For example, the block size debate would be discussed in the context of 
a road map related to a goal of increase scaling.  One of the metrics 
would be a decentralization metric.  (A framework for a decentralization 
metric is at 
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/pnorris/Acrobat/stm103%20articles/Schneider_Decentralization.pdf). 
  Cost would be one aspect of the decentralization metric.

Russ




On 7/30/2015 7:33 PM, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>
>> On Jul 30, 2015, at 5:29 AM, Gavin <gavinandresen@gmail.com
>> <mailto:gavinandresen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> it is hard to have a rational conversation about that when even simple
>> questions like 'what is s reasonable cost to run a full node' are met
>> with silence.
>
> Some of the risks are pretty hard to quantify. But I think this misses
> the bigger point - it very well *might* be possible to safely raise this
> limit or even get rid of it by first fixing some serious issues with the
> protocol. But over six years into the project and these issues continue
> to be all-but-ignored by most of the community (including at least a few
> core developers). I don’t think it’s really a matter of whether we agree
> on whether it’s good to raise the block size limit, Gavin. I think it’s
> a matter of a difference in priorities.
>
> - Eric
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31  0:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-28 22:25 [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn't temporary Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29  0:43 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2015-07-29  0:44   ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29  0:46   ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-07-29  0:55     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29  2:40       ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29  3:37         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29  3:46           ` Milly Bitcoin
2015-07-29  5:17             ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29 11:18         ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-29  9:59 ` Mike Hearn
2015-07-29 10:43   ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29 11:15     ` Mike Hearn
2015-07-29 12:03       ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-29 12:13         ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-29 17:17       ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn'ttemporary Raystonn .
2015-07-29 19:56       ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn't temporary Owen
2015-07-29 20:09         ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-07-29 21:28           ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn'ttemporary Raystonn .
2015-07-29 22:11             ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-07-29 23:10               ` Raystonn .
2015-07-30  3:49                 ` Adam Back
2015-07-30  4:51                   ` Andrew LeCody
2015-07-30  8:21                     ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn't temporary Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-30  9:15                       ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-30 12:29                       ` Gavin
2015-07-30 12:50                         ` Pieter Wuille
2015-07-30 14:03                           ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-30 14:05                           ` Gavin Andresen
2015-07-30 14:28                             ` Pieter Wuille
2015-07-30 15:36                             ` Jorge Timón
2015-07-30 23:33                         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-31  0:15                           ` Milly Bitcoin [this message]
2015-07-31 21:30                             ` Jorge Timón
2015-07-31 21:43                               ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-31  6:42                           ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-31 20:45                             ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-31 20:57                               ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-08-01 20:22                               ` John T. Winslow
2015-08-01 21:05                                 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-07-30  9:16                   ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn'ttemporary Venzen Khaosan
2015-07-30  9:38                     ` Jorge Timón
2015-07-30 13:33                       ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-07-30 14:10                         ` Jorge Timón
2015-07-30 14:52                       ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-30 15:24                         ` Bryan Bishop
2015-07-30 15:55                           ` Gavin Andresen
2015-07-30 17:24                             ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-31 15:27                             ` Bryan Bishop
2015-07-30 16:07                           ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-30 17:42                             ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-30 18:02                               ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-07-31  0:22                                 ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn't temporary Eric Lombrozo
2015-07-31  8:06                                 ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn'ttemporary Thomas Zander
2015-07-30 15:41                         ` Jorge Timón
2015-07-30  9:44             ` odinn
2015-07-29 20:23         ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measureisn't temporary Raystonn .
2015-07-29 11:29     ` [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn't temporary Thomas Zander
2015-07-29 18:00     ` Jorge Timón
2015-07-30  7:08       ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-29 16:53   ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-07-29 17:30     ` Sriram Karra
2015-07-29 18:03     ` Mike Hearn
2015-07-29 19:53       ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-07-30 14:15         ` Thomas Zander
2015-07-30  9:05       ` odinn
2015-07-31  1:25 Raystonn
2015-07-31  3:18 ` Milly Bitcoin
     [not found] <f9e27b28-f967-45f7-bd1b-c427534ade9c@me.com>
2015-07-31 23:05 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman

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