From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DB418D7 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:10:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9803D63 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 485A5C13C0; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:10:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1440126611; bh=wfVQQBZUD1cffH5bGFcR60hAMd9tngvFJSrZ63hAccE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=MxK/YVp37uOCOQQZ1MwIn/n/RK1Kt5ICBKGBbwspLsuweRihH31PArqKIn94NjvSF HotJgD2/kWYjKXPi6zARYLu9bwFqmL4HBi8np/SVjuBs1MhbpaT0B2FBHliJt8nq8u Pjdid0hloSKOdBMbphkDAJTFaFseu8ZCHcS3iGnU= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: odinn.cyberguerrilla) with ESMTPSA id BA8BF1C0038 Message-ID: <55D69691.6060207@riseup.net> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:10:09 -0700 From: odinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Egginger , bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org References: <55D5A919.3030505@olivere.de> In-Reply-To: <55D5A919.3030505@olivere.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at mx1.riseup.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Will there be a freeze of the current protocol version? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:10:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To answer your question, from my perspective, I am not opposed to block size increase.. I am hoping it would be in the context of something like BIP 100 as I've said before. But I'm extremely opposed to XT. Would I continue with bitcoin if things continue and "XT prevails" as you put it? That is addressed in part here in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1157545.msg12196537 Basically, in short, I would fight it as long as possible. I won't use XT, and I suspect there are many like myself who will never use it as well. On 08/20/2015 03:16 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Hello, > > BitPay seems to support BIP 101: > > https://medium.com/@spair/increasing-the-block-size-limit-85ff236fc516 > > We do not know where this is going. But I suspect that ultimately > also the core client will increase the block size. > > Bitcoin is also the subject of research. I think that research is > much to slow (and uncertain) for many companies and users. This is > the reason for XT. Nevertheless, I think further research on the > base of the current protocol version is very important. Thus, I > hope that the current block chain survives. Albeit at a lower level > with fewer users. And expressly not to sabotage necessary changes > in the main project. > > Let's suppose XT prevails or core is changed within the terms of > BIP 101: > > Do you think that there are enough people to continue with the old > protocol version? Would developers fork a Bitcoin client for > supporting the old nodes with security updates? Or will there be a > compatibility mode in XT, so that XT behave like an old Bitcoin > node? What about smaller but important projects like picocoin? > > - oliver _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > - -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1paRAAoJEGxwq/inSG8CTkQH/3N1kEuiGOCwHOe0Upw+XLi5 lIt0eME9cWsknqJvHyASVF6OGRcNdl5GFd2KG25P7NoxE5ZyP6zRuwzcPkAuDPNz h+3lnNYx/e2sg69FPNXSnhShV0mlGAV7r/poLRFMP4AsOyq4kVmjD3LFFndnRJ9I SekAj847ocMqcujkTt29gKw4JNT7JiWAbGELpxms4GYHvyCdDkjS319GfN5BcerV xSYXcfrlji+dNFoll1TAEfXjcfuYmMitdXdRmbbcslxB57hAY/owwTRyOkjnrwDV vacPYRauG2xcYQVGQAvRPSXaKtaE0sBau5Yjk1eN534knggypdrx0CC+BmqEqhA= =HpeA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----