From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BCA41022 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 02:09:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97F6EEA for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 02:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from piha.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CF9BC1FD1; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1440727743; bh=r6DykX5a7olZ5ss55bKKSGW+onzRL1stXTdG7caCb0I=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=UtkulTGZtRkK6vdsxFUdc7EYisoPZxH8PLe96DUQfDB7hywZZjlQQKyX96Meo8rcU pWMn+1W1l9Asl4hfQ3l1DcJYkuow0aj3dCxhxPdyfCYGbF4r57ix9fAd6VTFYZJCBC s77vWZPXPOauuqhVzz/8h4knZ0F4mRG6CSbtuEZk= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: odinn.cyberguerrilla) with ESMTPSA id CF11D1404AC Message-ID: <55DFC2BE.6050906@riseup.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:09:02 -0700 From: odinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: prabhat , Gavin Andresen References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at mx1.riseup.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIPS proposal for implementing AML-KYC in bitcoin X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 02:09:04 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, On 08/27/2015 06:39 AM, prabhat via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Fine point. > > So where is the solution? What to do? You could study bitcoin some more and understand what it is instead of proposing to "implement AML-KYC in bitcoin" which shows vast ignorance about it. That's probably what you should do. > > Prabhat Kumar Singh > > Prabhat Kumar Singh > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Gavin Andresen > > wrote: > > Have you talked with anybody at the Bitcoin Foundation about this > proposal? > > As Chief Scientist of the Foundation, I am strongly opposed to any > proposal that puts the Foundation in a position of centralized > authority, so this is unacceptable: "The Bitcoin Foundation will > act as fair play party and enforcement body to control the misuse > of vast financial powers which bitcoin has." > > The idea that a central organization can be trusted to keep > secrets secure is just fundamentally wrong. In the very recent past > we have seen government organizations fail in that task (the NSA, > the OPM) and we see commercial organizations that SHOULD be highly > motivated to do a good job also fail (e.g. the Ashley Madison > leak). > > Even if it were technically possible, I would be opposed because > decentralization is a bedrock principle of Bitcoin. > > -- -- Gavin Andresen > > > > > _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing > list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > - -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV38K+AAoJEGxwq/inSG8CTK8IAI3WMVX4Ajk4PraPsCZqugrv OjuQXc13K4/lf+FSxerzuNQy2ppLnl4jS7/5kJ0kYRHf0FGn7nMvk6NX1bze4P4S iAyP6oUvPv/LdX9XMettKo4S6B/Nrl8f3q9sRmW1ZicpvhTLrzIGXQvmnX3M115o h+mtGMRcfL2znjZIoiAE9jEtTt3ZW3yswk4eGOA5wAoD5VAuBmVWBE61ZGqAFwW+ 7EskK96ZQnlroKnk47sfn2V3vemUijpXtZItcuVSENAAKwhC/rMG2hLSFOFgk608 owYTLQcSX6DITNPpzb0/TMHwiuAog4YJ260QwY95SFyPARhN167SzR8IWKQU+MQ= =t9+J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----