From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD8559F3 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:29:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F288189 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09E6BC1E71; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:29:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1440977341; bh=qEjqJZ9RwJnulpN+pAeEfkI+vqmPpveWNdR8Ck/ypak=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=TdqRLnQGeN4NKzvdzyjHU2LT6Df1kWpYrG99g2bXdiuH/TOajrE97Scd2VSZ+yMNb Yj0sTGELdlwMim1sfLj1bV75HrpvyeJ5u+zZqsZmPsMMb2IU7wUbYTTSGLbTcG4Fgs 9rUF6mxRejORXF1Teg+71HCLmNDxONYyGGds4M6I= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: odinn.cyberguerrilla) with ESMTPSA id 37F201C03F8 Message-ID: <55E391B5.3060300@riseup.net> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:28:53 +0000 From: odinn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kristov Atlas , wei@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at mx1.riseup.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Open Bitcoin Privacy Protect Privacy Questionnaire, Mid-Year 2015 report X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:29:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Related: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/6568 Kristov Atlas via bitcoin-dev: > Hi Wei, > > As you know, I'm not a developer of Bitcoin-Qt, but we'll need to > make our best guesses for these answers if the developers won't > reply. I'm going to post my best guesses here so that people > reading the list have a short window of opportunity to correct me > if they wish. > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Wei via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> Transaction Formatting >> >> 1. Does your application take any steps to create ambiguity >> between transactions which unavoidably spend from multiple >> addresses at the same time and intentional mixing transactions? >> > > No, Bitcoin-Qt does not try to make non-mixing transactions look > like mixing transactions. > > >> 2. What algorithms does your application use for ordering >> inputs and outputs in a transaction? In particular, how do you >> handle the change output and do you take into account common >> practices of other wallet applications when determining >> ordering? >> > > Not yet BIP 69. These notes suggest that outputs are randomized: > https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.8.1 > > >> 3. Does your application minimize the harmful effects of >> address reuse by spending every spendable input (“sweeping”) from >> an address when a transaction is created? >> > > Unknown > > 4. Does your application fully implement BIP 62? >> > > Here's a detailed answer on stack exchange: > http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/35904/how-much-of-bip-62-de aling-with-malleability-has-been-implemented > > By item, my extremely brief interpretation: > > Non-DER encoded ECDSA signatures: BIP66 soft fork has happened, so > this is presumed to be implemented Non-push operations in > scriptSig: Implemented Push operations in scriptSig of non-standard > size type: Implemented in 0.9.0 Zero-padded number pushes: > Implemented in 0.10.0 (current available version is 0.11.0) > Inherent ECDSA signature malleability: ...implemented? Superfluous > scriptSig operations: implemented 0.6.0 Inputs ignored by scripts: > Only partly addressed by 0.10.0. It appears that the rest would > require changes to consensus rules, so Bitcoin-Qt is as compliant > as it can be. Sighash flags based masking and New signatures by the > sender: Can't be implemented without changes to consensus rules. > > I would summarize this as a "yes." > > >> >> Mixing >> >> 5. If your application supports mixing: >> > > It doesn't. There's an issue for CoinJoin here: > https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3226 > > >> a. What is the average number of participants a user can >> expect to interact with on a typical join transaction? b. >> Does your application attempt to construct join transactions in >> a way that avoids distinguishing them from non-join >> transactions? c. Does your application perform any kind of >> reversibility analysis on join transactions prior to presenting >> them to the user for confirmation? d. Is the mixing >> technique employed secure against correlation attacks by the >> facilitator, such as a CoinJoin server or off-chain mixing >> service? e. Is the mixing technique employed secure against >> theft of funds by the facilitator or its participants? >> >> Donations >> >> 6. If your application has a fee or donation to the >> developers feature: >> > > No donation feature last time I checked. > > >> a. What steps do you take to make the donations >> indistinguishable from regular spend in terms of output sizes and >> destination addresses? >> >> Balance Queries and Tx Broadcasting >> >> 7. Please describe how your application obtains balance >> information in terms of how queries from the user’s device can >> reveal a connection between the addresses in their wallet. a. >> Does the application keep a complete copy of the blockchain >> locally (full node)? >> > > Yes > > >> b. Does the user’s device provide a filter which matches >> some fraction of the blockchain while providing a false positive >> rate (bloom or prefix filters)? >> > > No, it just downloads the whole blockchain and performs local > queries. > > >> i. If so, approximately what fraction of the blockchain does >> the filter match in a default configuration (0% - 100%)? >> > > 100%, unless a user bootstraps downloading the blockchain. > Bootstrapping will potentially limit the user's anonymity set to > other people who have downloaded that bootstrap.dat file. > > >> c. Does the user’s device query all of their addresses at >> the same time? >> > > N/A > > >> d. Does the user’s device query addresses individually in a >> manner that does not allow the query responder to correlate >> queries for different addresses? >> > > No. Just download blocks and processes that information locally. > > >> e. Can users opt to obtain their balance information via Tor >> (or equivalent means)? >> > > If Tor is set up as a SOCKS proxy, you can configure Bitcoin-QT > download the blockchain and broadcast txs through a single Tor > circuit. This can be configured once before opening Bitcoin-Qt. > > 8. Does the applications route outgoing transactions > independently >> from the manner in which it obtains balance information? Can >> users opt to have their transactions submitted to the Bitcoin >> network via Tor (or an equivalent means) independently of how >> they obtain their balance information? >> > > No, you can only configure a single proxy. > > >> 9. If your application supports multiple identities/wallets, >> does each one connect to the network as if it were completely >> independent from the other? >> > > No built-in support for multiple identities. You can hotswap wallet > files to crudely simulate this. You'd have to manually change the > Tor connection outside of Bitcoin-Qt to create the effect of making > the network connections independent. > > >> a. Does the application ever request balance information >> for addresses belonging to multiple identities in the same >> network query? >> > > Blocks are downloaded and tx broadcasts received/relayed rather > than querying the utxo set for a particular address. When swapping > between wallet files, some information may be leaked e.g. the > client may be at the same block height in terms of what it has > downloaded from the p2p network, which may leak to global passive > adversaries/AS's or sybil attackers the fact that a single client > was used for multiple wallets. > > >> b. Are outgoing transactions from multiple identities >> routed independently of each other to the Bitcoin network? >> > > Transactions from multiple identities would not be routed at the > same time. I'm not clear what happens if you have a single wallet > (identity) open and then open a new wallet (identity) without > closing Bitcoin-Qt -- some of the same routing paths may still be > used such that an attacker might observe transactions broadast > signed by private keys from multiple wallets (identities) and > observe that they appear to come from the same wallet client. OBPP > should assume the worst unless prevented contrary evidence. > > >> c. When an identity/wallet is deleted, does the deletion >> process eliminate all evidence from the user's device that the >> wallet was previously installed? >> > > Identity is primarily tied to a wallet.dat file. Deleting it will > remove most of the evidence that the wallet was installed on that > device, but there may be some extra information in ancillary files > that should also be deleted. This is an OS-level function, as > there is no operation built into the client to delete a wallet file > (identity). > > >> Network Privacy >> >> 10. When a user performs a backup operation for their wallet, >> does this generate any automatic network activity, such as a web >> query or email? >> > > No. Backups are local, and no email or SMS is linked. No web > queries related to backup. > > >> 11. Does your application perform any lookup external to the >> user’s device related to identifying transaction senders or >> recipients? >> > > No > > >> 12. Does you application connect to known endpoints which >> would be visible to an ISP, such as your domain? >> > > Yes, some connections to known p2p full nodes to bootstrap the > connection to the Bitcoin p2p network. This is configurable, but > there are defaults. An ISP is likely to be able to identify a > customer as running the Bitcoin-Qt client in particular on this > basis. > > >> 13. If your application connects directly to nodes in the >> Bitcoin P2P network, does it either use an unremarkable user >> agent string (Bitcoin Core. BitcoinJ, etc), or randomize its user >> agent on each connection? >> > > BIP12 specifies format for user agents: > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0014.mediawiki > > It appears that the Bitcoin-QT leaks specific information about its > client version through User Agent. This file defines the current > client version: > https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/55294a9fb673ab0a7c99b9c18279fe 12a5a07890/src/clientversion.h > > Various other files seem to use this to build up the UA string, > which is transmitted to other peers. > > >> >> Physical Access >> >> 14. Does the application uninstall process for your >> application eliminate all evidence from the user's device that >> the application was previously installed? Does it also eliminate >> wallet data? >> > > Probably depends on the platform. Last time I checked, I think > Bitcoin-Qt leaves behind a .bitcoin directory on most platforms > even after you run an uninstall script. > > >> 15. Does your application use techniques such as >> steganography to store persistent wallet metadata in a form not >> identifiable as belong to a Bitcoin wallet application? >> > > No > > >> 16. Please describe the degree to which users can use >> passwords/PINs to protect their data: a. Can the user set a >> password/PIN to protect their private keys? >> > > You can encrypt the wallet file with a password. The wallet is > "locked" until the password is entered, preventing decryption of > the private keys. > > >> b. Can the user set a password/PIN to protect their public >> keys and balance information? >> > > No -- any wallet.dat file can be opened and the public keys > inspected without the password. > > >> c. Can the user set a password/PIN to encrypt other wallet >> metadata, such as address books and transaction notes? >> > > No -- any wallet.dat file can be opened and the metadata inspected > without the password. > > >> d. Does the application use a single password/PIN to cover >> all protected data, or does it allow the use of multiple >> passwords/PINs? >> > > A single password for the wallet file. > > >> >> Custodianship >> >> 17. Do you as a wallet provider ever have access to >> unencrypted copies of the user’s private keys, public keys, or >> any other wallet metadata which may be used to associate a user >> with their transactions or balances? >> > > No custodianship. > > >> Telemetry Data >> >> 18. If your application reports telemetry data, such as >> usage information or automatic crash reporting, does the user >> have the opportunity to review and approve all information >> transmitted before it is sent? >> > > No obvious telemetry data being sent. > > >> Source Code and Building >> >> 19. Can a user of your application compile the application >> themselves in a manner that produces a binary version identical >> to the version you distribute (deterministic build system)? >> > > Yes, I think that's the point of the gitian stuff. > > -Kristov > > > > _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing > list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > - -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJV45G0AAoJEGxwq/inSG8CbZkH/06DGCXKdHUQlOKaeXYvLb7S AonXX8/ZMB4D/Z2J9lE9BJP+CDZOUYAOwwaLDD/ecZvtiIgG0O7NP/pj6qLW3nW6 muazJH95u6Bac1jGxTf+cuEo3ntJFwtsXuP907GMpWGqM1Bk2BwrMIfUQFYm+9Rs hpMpux/40d+dqs5daaBVr975d9+jkwcHRnpXJY/fYOCOXo+sF8lmRjeKoeMHyyw1 H2yJOuTIwZklEfg01yyuxKBRUpl2fGwO34yJp6/Ap+gjdHPP+DNOCYHEPQiPOxf8 rKTq9kgoABUj6aukS2phgDcbGJ6+YCuSWbh04GKviWLhvmzSmXXUQig6Ixz1PhM= =3fIz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----