From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7E041798 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:15:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-qk0-f180.google.com (mail-qk0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC790249 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qkcf65 with SMTP id f65so25262449qkc.3 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 2015 15:15:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:subject:to:references:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=PbqpQDQEy8wPaxKByAajEO3PRF8q9uwQB8cfS2+lCoE=; b=bswr2GnAYmAQmf9WprXRZS8uJ3ILx9TkxKYq61Rqrqxj6qbbqoHM84+HkhowpFjXw2 kAWYhsg8R+qTQlJg27hrjvRD7y9nM3Stfdnb4dlF99xtAy7kTYL3y8N7RjY6VgiLt9TW tIXaL0jkFzzLYxV2bt5+kpbqhEhOF6ZbWAviW7vusPkQ0zAyzoIQn+wQl40dOTR7PumN MB7Cd9DYQE+8/cvWY9pjmDyHGoDvbM6bXmbVCxCbrowUysTO128fXkyaTSKW3wQ+jaIn gsdlp11aWuXrhajHu+FvIwLr/vlBJj3HEvNc7zcFILx72UC7sPyeKK+/KscgKhom5jn6 d9sA== X-Received: by 10.55.18.24 with SMTP id c24mr9392170qkh.109.1442614512039; Fri, 18 Sep 2015 15:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (ool-4575fa8d.dyn.optonline.net. [69.117.250.141]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x81sm4493972qha.24.2015.09.18.15.15.10 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 18 Sep 2015 15:15:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Sztorc To: Bitcoin development mailing list References: <55F9E47D.50507@mattcorallo.com> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N0110 Message-ID: <55FC8CEB.9070508@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 18:15:07 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020404000907070907020401" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, URIBL_RHS_DOB autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Improving Blocksize Communication Through Markets X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:15:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020404000907070907020401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear List, 1. Are you sick of hearing about THE BLOCKSIZE? 2. Do you feel that long-settled blocksize issues are coming up again and again, resulting in duplicated work and communications burnout? 3. Do you feel that, while scalability is important and all, people should just shut up about it already so that you can talk about X Feature that you actually spent your time on? 4. Do you ever stop and think: How much *money* was spent for everyone to travel to Montreal, stay at their hotels, and to rent the conference venue and broadcasting accommodations? Shouldn't there be a way of just *purchasing* the information we wanted more directly? 5. Do you feel that the inherent subjectivity of the conversation encourages =E2=80=9Cpolitical maneuvers=E2=80=9D such as character assass= ination, reduction of complex issues to minimal (two) unrepresentative =E2=80=9Cpa= rties=E2=80=9D, and harassment / threats of violence (for the =E2=80=9Cgreater good=E2=80= =9D)? As I presented at the Montreal Conference, there is a way to substantially improve the discussion. Would you believe that Hal Finney himself advocated it just seven short years ago? I happen to know it back-to-front, and the (simple) pieces are already coded into my own more-complex project Truthcoin. You could wait for me to hack the pieces together myself (which might take a long time), or you, a competent/fast C++ developer familiar with Bitcoin and/or Sidechain-Elements, could talk to me for 30 minutes, and (depending on your skill level) bang it out in, probably, one weekend. More details are on the project page ( http://bitcoinblocksize.com/ ), some technical details are in the Github README. I have also created a Slack: https://blocksize-markets.slack.com/messages/general/ Sincerely, Paul --------------020404000907070907020401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear List,

1. Are you sick of hearing about THE BLOCKSIZE?
2. Do you feel that long-settled blocksize issues are coming up again and again, resulting in duplicated work and communications burnout?
3. Do you feel that, while scalability is important and all, people should just shut up about it already so that you can talk about X Feature that you actually spent your time on?
4. Do you ever stop and think: How much *money* was spent for everyone to travel to Montreal, stay at their hotels, and to rent the conference venue and broadcasting accommodations? Shouldn't there be a way of just *purchasing* the information we wanted more directly?
5. Do you feel that the inherent subjectivity of the conversation encourages “political maneuvers” such as character assassination, reduction of complex issues to minimal (two) unrepresentative “parties”, and harassment / threats of violence (for the “greater good”)?

As I presented at the Montreal Conference, there is a way to substantially improve the discussion. Would you believe that Hal Finney himself advocated it just seven short years ago?

I happen to know it back-to-front, and the (simple) pieces are already coded into my own more-complex project Truthcoin.

You could wait for me to hack the pieces together myself (which might take a long time), or you, a competent/fast C++ developer familiar with Bitcoin and/or Sidechain-Elements, could talk to me for 30 minutes, and (depending on your skill level) bang it out in, probably, one weekend.

More details are on the project page ( http://bitcoinblocksize.com/ ), some technical details are in the Github README.

I have also created a Slack: https://blocksize-markets.slack.com/messages/general/

Sincerely,
Paul --------------020404000907070907020401--