From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44F54904 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:27:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from server3 (server3.include7.ch [144.76.194.38]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600178C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by server3 (Postfix, from userid 115) id E5BBD2E603F2; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:27:56 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from Jonass-MacBook-Pro.local (cable-static-140-182.teleport.ch [87.102.140.182]) by server3 (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 458DC2D002C4 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:27:56 +0100 (CET) To: Bitcoin development mailing list From: Jonas Schnelli X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <564590F4.8040605@jonasschnelli.ch> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:27:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Ads on bitcoin.org website X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:27:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi all I'm a little bit concerned about the future of bitcoin.org. A neutral website that informs about bitcoin, bitcoin-applications and bitcoin-exchanges is important at this "early stage". You might have seen that bitcoin.com does not claim to be neutral and informative. As counterweight, a neutral and ad-free bitcoin.org site is even more important. Recently, bitcoin.org did merge a PR [1] that enables Google analytics for bitcoin.org. The PR comments did show disagreement for this step. For me, this seems to be against the about-us rules [2] in about "who is in charge of bitcoin". Personally I think allowing Google to collect data of bitcoin.org visitors is against the bitcoin "philosophy". Another PR [3] (not merged yet) would enable the technical base to display ads on the site. What ads would be displayed there? If an ad provider would be implemented (like Google Ads), very likely bitcoin related things like bitcoin application vendors or bitcoin exchanges would be shown there. Wouldn't this attack the neutrality model of bitcoin.org? I think, it would move bitcoin.org in the wrong direction, towards sites like bitcoin.com and it would loose the neutral "feeling" and users and press very likely will see this as a "greedy" step. I'd like to know, how changes on bitcoin.org happen? Do they follow consensus-agreement among bitcoin-space contributors or does a group of people decide what to merge and what not? If site operators or contributers need to get payed for their (highly appreciated) work or need to pay for infrastructure, we should address this root problem. I'm pretty sure we can raise funds for a such purpose and I'm offering my help to speak to bitcoin businesses and individuals. [1] https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/1087 [2] https://bitcoin.org/en/about-us [3] https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/1136 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWRZD0AAoJECnUvLZBb1PsrBoQALebNL8OUIucB/MqtI8JK9Fa RctlDuJlPeLCOC0oXjM4WKu/mzYATSuc/2y1xxWQLgRgteKRMd1+4ZcCIz0fqbIk M4RsEr24klybRl7A4+vMmuL0OsXd3vXjU52AUDrSokdaCEITxeSpsRROX+t+tKz4 It5CXRdZS9gyaDswCiWsnDTDbSSbpOiz7DzaBQTMziOQYr+VKQg5G0FSsVGrGNso N2LpKtADBwpPbVP57S6NwAkOERcVQnIdJ2Ag6NgLLkdIA8z3lSgd+Yvn1rdbdKQh NkPWy1e0QHUPS6gCunKguJA46UdO0vuIY+ZLNIaOtnnEQFKtSn3VYERghWPY9WQ2 PhBZXGuSsLyQg9/3qKeae9e11S+bz7xJpNOwJC8FnOOOS4h6W74O5UG4B7QXd3Ap 0eQZd2+iRlp59RNaKMbiXIHodmbB/nbefbH7HK+qNvKvL4i01Ar8FBPjXPXf3tOA U5WHb6h7ClmOJ+tWsgB4RdhUISE/ryzyA4s59troQlIWRm7aWF9cjq1JWRqKWhfy CfjVsRje9QBYnX3aS5Y9Vh8lGuArr8ZxiBbXgA7bL951GgWge747vxadvESeimCv W2qf7oFzQ1QKAm8NbTzLHJEjq0HVop1KBjGS0rjyf0upA0Xtdu4u1cfTvhK0ULAe ZCkR3m2qdxJ/JqtUbioq =ZXsV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----