From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81483B3F for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2017 17:03:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 01:00:00 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from pv33p36im-asmtp001.me.com (pv33p36im-asmtp001.me.com [17.142.213.62]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42ED6206 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2017 17:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.pv33p36im-asmtp001.me.com by pv33p36im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.38.0 64bit (built Feb 26 2016)) id <0ONW009006IRBH00@pv33p36im-asmtp001.me.com> for bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:03:55 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=4d515a; t=1491321835; bh=t/VeGgcaKKjllkWnTRour7F98s97pa/8Ykg1qzFNE28=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=ceqZc9x1arAfFt3Wmh7CA8SkC37qlxL9lkk9jwJolurwmkyu8MXkmuH94SyNTuUjK mhOykBm4whHeFpLZ6BMeSzQ1tk21rNOC87y6g/Fc/B1znUBZg+j+9AZRjQ+eCdEHRs DW4xRTiDJJwOiYa/LJiEL4OOHEUtTE8vpdIGbZIxc1a63qFefA/M4JGWFNaAvS2DBW +3IdY13A/mNUgDz2r2YB3HATQ3W0Ue4pmJMR5z/HmGUSymnVCCIwafY9f3XFSVXFmM iFk73qLe1uf7fkthOeOachH14Jhzka5grPIPhhahXMFqKLSCvvy3bnmmX06yY0u9zU 4WoqhmFKQWEqA== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by pv33p36im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.38.0 64bit (built Feb 26 2016)) with ESMTPSA id <0ONW006UT7AF4150@pv33p36im-asmtp001.me.com>; Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:03:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2017-04-04_12:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1034 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1701120000 definitions=main-1704040139 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-DF446C48-7DAA-413E-85D0-B762DD9C53A5 MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Jean-Paul Kogelman X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14E304) In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:03:51 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-id: <5719296D-9908-4FB0-B530-AF23D6DE9949@me.com> References: <2D094CEC-3756-45B0-970F-1EB33DF352C5@xbt.hk> <7465915.Qhm6HcGyAn@strawberry> <2021960.L2etkeoJTU@strawberry> To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 17:04:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP draft: Extended block header hardfork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 17:03:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail-DF446C48-7DAA-413E-85D0-B762DD9C53A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, It's clear that you have some rather large gaps in your knowledge of Bitcoin= , its rules, implementation and game theory. I highly encourage you spend so= me time learning more about these things before continuing posting here.=20 https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/ is a good place to start. It's a s= afe place where you can ask any question you want without fear of being laug= hed at. Kind regards, Jean-Paul > On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Greg Sanders via bitcoin-dev wrote: >=20 > That's BIP30, he linked BIP34: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/mas= ter/src/validation.cpp#L3004 >=20 >> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> Can you tell me where it is enforced? >>=20 >> The only place I found was here; >> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/validation.cpp#L1793 >>=20 >> which doesn=A1=AFt enforce it, all that code does is check that the txid i= s >> unknown or fully spent. >> And since the below idea from Russel would change the txid, it would seem= no >> full client would reject this. >>=20 >> Maybe its in a BIP, but I can=A1=AFt find it in the code. >>=20 >> On Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:59:12 CEST James Hilliard wrote: >> > It is a consensus rule >> > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0034.mediawiki >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev >> > >> > wrote: >> > > On Sunday, 2 April 2017 22:39:13 CEST Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-de= v >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > >> Someone told me a while back that it would be more natural if we mo= ve >> > >> the >> > >> >> > >> nHeight from the coinbase script to the coinbase locktime. Have you= >> > >> considered doing this? >> > > >> > > That change would not be a consensus change and thus free to make any= >> > > day. >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Tom Zander >> Blog: https://zander.github.io >> Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev --Apple-Mail-DF446C48-7DAA-413E-85D0-B762DD9C53A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom,

It's clear that you have some ra= ther large gaps in your knowledge of Bitcoin, its rules, implementation and g= ame theory. I highly encourage you spend some time learning more about these= things before continuing posting here. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/ is a= good place to start. It's a safe place where you can ask any question you w= ant without fear of being laughed at.
Kind regards,


Jean-Paul

On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Gre= g Sanders via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:


On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
Can you tell me where it is enforced?

The only place I found was here;
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/validation.cpp#L1793

which doesn=E2=80=99t enforce it, all that code does is check that the txid i= s
unknown or fully spent.
And since the below idea from Russel would change the txid, it would seem no=
full client would reject this.

Maybe its in a BIP, but I can=E2=80=99t find it in the code.

On Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:59:12 CEST James Hilliard wrote:
> It is a consensus rule
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bip= s/blob/master/bip-0034.mediawiki
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev
>
> <bitcoin-de= v@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 2 April 2017 22:39:13 CEST Russell O'Connor via bitcoin= -dev
> >
> > wrote:
> >>  Someone told me a while back that it would be more natur= al if we move
> >>  the
> >>
> >> nHeight from the coinbase script to the coinbase locktime.&nbs= p; Have you
> >> considered doing this?
> >
> > That change would not be a consensus change and thus free to make a= ny
> > day.


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