From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0nUN-0003kO-Pw for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:28:15 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de ([80.237.132.66]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1Y0nUK-0000lv-Ee for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:28:15 +0000 Received: from [37.143.74.116] (helo=[192.168.0.101]); authenticated by wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1Y0nUC-0002mA-Qu; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:28:04 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B4949721-C280-4DF1-8B8F-7E3EF1249699"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Tamas Blummer In-Reply-To: <20141215145506.54A06E23568@quidecco.de> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:28:02 +0100 Message-Id: <6890C7A6-DE8B-4F0C-98AD-1358F2BFC883@bitsofproof.com> References: <54880492.9060300@intersango.com> <54876653.4020403@certimix.com> <548769FA.5040406@bluematt.me> <417518B4-1E4D-4467-BC87-95C9EAF0C599@bitsofproof.com> <20141215145506.54A06E23568@quidecco.de> To: Isidor Zeuner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; tamas@bitsofproof.com; 1418718492; ccdd2640; X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.237.132.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1Y0nUK-0000lv-Ee Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Merged mining a side chain with proof of burn on parent chain X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:28:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B4949721-C280-4DF1-8B8F-7E3EF1249699 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_419A90F7-E348-41DB-9F55-ECAA2C6F40FD" --Apple-Mail=_419A90F7-E348-41DB-9F55-ECAA2C6F40FD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The output has to be burned otherwise there is no cost of expressing any number of alternate opinions the same time.=20 Tamas Blummer Bits of Proof On Dec 15, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Isidor Zeuner = wrote: > For every participant who could try to decide about the adequateness > of the cost, no direct effect comes from the difference between Proof > of Burn, and approaches which keep the Bitcoins inside the set of > outputs that can still participate. So, any notion which > differentiates with respect to this must make some assumption about > what defines the interest of the Bitcoin nodes as a community. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Isidor >=20 --Apple-Mail=_419A90F7-E348-41DB-9F55-ECAA2C6F40FD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

The output has to be burned otherwise = there is no cost of expressing

any number of alternate = opinions the same time.

Tamas = Blummer

Bits of Proof

On Dec 15, = 2014, at 3:55 PM, Isidor Zeuner <cryptocurrencies@quidecco.de<= /a>> wrote:

For every participant who = could try to decide about the adequateness
of the cost, no direct = effect comes from the difference between Proof
of Burn, and = approaches which keep the Bitcoins inside the set of
outputs that can = still participate. So, any notion which
differentiates with respect = to this must make some assumption about
what defines the interest of = the Bitcoin nodes as a community.

Best = regards,

Isidor

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