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From: "Odinn Cyberguerrilla" <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net>
To: "Randi Joseph" <randi@codehalo.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] ASIC-proof mining
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:12:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <68ffba5f8bc28bb7a9c2f4f7f15ee683.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53B9E7D6.2050703@codehalo.com>

Just as an aside to this lengthy convo, the Cryptonote-based BCN recently
had some interesting updates which made it easier for ordinary computers
(nothing special) to handle it.

I realize that's not Bitcoin, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

> Thanks Mike.
>
> Indeed, I am aware of current approach, which is why I was suggesting
> this as an alternative.
> I haven't thought about it enough, and perhaps it was too radical a
> rethinking - just wanted to see what the smarter minds thought.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> -Randi
>
> On 7/5/14, 4:43 AM, Mike Hearn wrote:
>>
>>     Is it possible instead to allocate a portion of the reward to " a #
>> of
>>     runner up(s)" even though the runner-up(s) block will be orphaned?
>>
>>
>> There's really no concept of a "runner up" because hashing is progress
>> free. It's unintuitive and often trips people up. There's no concept
>> that everyone is 95% of the way to finding a solution and then someone
>> pips you to the post. It's more like playing the lottery over and over
>> again. Doesn't matter how many times you did it before, the next time
>> your chances are the same.
>>
>> A better concept is of rewarding "near miss" solutions which is what
>> we already do of course, via pools, which pay you for shares which
>> don't quite meet the difficulty target but almost do. So the question
>> is how can we implement pools which have this reward structure (which
>> obviously works well) without miners simultaneously giving up their
>> right to block creation either due to technical problems or sheer
>> lazyness.
>
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      reply	other threads:[~2014-07-07  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-04 10:27 [Bitcoin-development] ASIC-proof mining Andy Parkins
2014-07-04 10:53 ` Alan Reiner
2014-07-04 11:08   ` Eugen Leitl
2014-07-04 11:15   ` Andy Parkins
2014-07-04 11:22     ` Alan Reiner
2014-07-04 11:28       ` Andy Parkins
2014-07-04 11:37 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-07-04 12:01   ` Andy Parkins
2014-07-04 15:20     ` Mike Hearn
2014-07-04 16:50 ` kjj
2014-07-04 18:39   ` Ron Elliott
2014-07-04 19:54     ` Aaron Voisine
2014-07-04 20:21   ` Jorge Timón
2014-07-04 20:38     ` Luke Dashjr
2014-07-04 20:55     ` Randi Joseph
2014-07-05  8:43       ` Mike Hearn
2014-07-07  0:20         ` Randi Joseph
2014-07-07  6:12           ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla [this message]

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