From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2C62B5F for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:41:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ed1-f43.google.com (mail-ed1-f43.google.com [209.85.208.43]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BC54E6 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-f43.google.com with SMTP id k8so15704278eds.7 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 04:41:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=K6aOGvl2waP3KqIdqy5fIgG3AWgeEExaDz2CbFQGWYo=; b=tqo3UBUgC9Hr+AUyq8EFMSq1F0wumaTI5sVDDUO5EhxFjIXvZTJX0z/O2QEkRHwyKq 1q/DozwWq5T+P2/kU1XEM+UJUcqAtVW7xi4Kt1TH68CwJsozOAqSGhgujLJF48N0jt4Q oPZuAQlsdltw5MedB6LLtp+VKaKZFvxanVFjrh/2sFFSKLPDrAErKVk4a9QsF1URn6gp SqVY43jdOefeWZ+UoKqHhN/vMZzbfGmOveHLiIPk2QsLKoeJsdNTH/bgDfkuhxNx+7JZ jWk3r9M78AUI+KBB/CQ5R0XNU1uKb46NmcoBiHdhZzpt7g5riy47CGbLx6N56tM+QOMA Rp6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWoiMO2FkjAmZtUx9VWHDs1RsFEwh6X+/98Fy/35sooXFJZlTit /SgZy98RHKhOJbHcCBirSP8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzrfCVY7GUJMcGQRnh1nyqLhUawvDi4e5IbEbGwM5yGL5sKNRKMRSLuStzM1792KAy19QNnTw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:65d7:: with SMTP id z23mr26865043ejn.18.1560771670039; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 04:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2a02:8108:8240:4e4c:fc5b:a418:1b37:16c5? ([2a02:8108:8240:4e4c:fc5b:a418:1b37:16c5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm796235ejl.2.2019.06.17.04.41.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Jun 2019 04:41:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Peter Todd , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: <205859a9-635a-e958-a03f-8d9a35e0da1a@emilengler.com> <20190616202506.kjdpul473lutqhfw@petertodd.org> From: Emil Engler Message-ID: <733e1cd5-6511-ebea-fad4-6a5377ef9b25@emilengler.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 13:41:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190616202506.kjdpul473lutqhfw@petertodd.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------70F9B4B0BC7225316F26C051" Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:44:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] testnet4 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:41:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------70F9B4B0BC7225316F26C051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed a large testnet blockchain has advantages too. But because it is the testnet and the testnet coins have no value, the blockchain could be 'spammed' after a reset for some days/weeks until it has a certain size. Could this be realistic solution ? Am 16.06.19 um 22:25 schrieb Peter Todd: > On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 05:01:50PM +0200, Emil Engler via bitcoin-dev w= rote: >> I don't get why the testnet shouldn't be resetted just because there i= s a >> (probably better) alternative for it. The testnet is still a thing and= is >> also used. >=20 > Remember that the size of testnet itself is an important test; I've arg= ued in > that past that we should consider making testnet *larger* than mainnet.= There's > good arguments against that too, but I personally think the current siz= e is a > reasonable compromise. >=20 > Of course, I personally tend to do all my testing on either internal re= gtest > nodes, or directly on mainnet. But the fact that works for me is specif= ic to > the exact type of development I do and may not be applicable to you. >=20 --=20 https://www.emilengler.com --------------70F9B4B0BC7225316F26C051 Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; name="pEpkey.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pEpkey.asc" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- mQINBFybu/QBEADwXuxSgFWERsEvMfFxPW7wWOpFUnzVbUTcuyadiL8Cdd+ht3zo cakr8R7F1HrE75HyyDK5bn/Hlm3uD9k4yNHJBSouCR8Ueiri8Vh3N/QzcmBfqZGf JGtD+SW+BVZxXBX32FBkPrLHNanNq2I/utawQXM90fLUzD62LYm8SgaGl3RAnSki MYKeCtuk2yrrua2EY9KDud/SJ1stHXECF6qCm2aoT4fhnn/3AGZqaBSwoU4MqBsI 496fFuYXBPZnKXgak47aIK5nmv4TAYLKadOxKePBpoJDjV7e8isDHSRlveh8tTsO QZ7rsWBJnT1pO1SwFyuLwreQtNlyzXx4YVlWHLNdIQiGjnUiJS08YkA702hPxOUT QMx2MosN4zRsD6C6QBZud68tRdI05bhsQ+7/s2E+kIyBYqi6fCJVz/WSQHLA6st4 o7L10dCYyLTZZh4+aNaWBHW5rE4gTIdKSnLzmPJJ/mPFLH2n4bEUQTaRi08ClNWI uVDls3xcQJ1HKWNDk6iTdDNlecbQ8sc31/pXRv9JS/Gsj8PmA/3plQSuSTGyxYGq Tt0zd+bYMFCI+Qm64Qv1DZaIE4I0cLAnB4yQVUVjgrdNbjnCivlfL9yc+p4AKQ7K 65UgV089R5mMUrZycVFlsKW4Nihuc81qZ1lSAWJvZloJflrfjgYu25b7UQARAQAB tB9FbWlsIEVuZ2xlciA8bWVAZW1pbGVuZ2xlci5jb20+iQJUBBMBCAA+FiEE82Xm VEpcmrEyk0LUL21BRcVfx8cFAlybu/QCGwMFCRLMAwAFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYC AwECHgECF4AACgkQL21BRcVfx8fj/Q/9Hik5TAVznP0VXxEPY3QMVPJYuNBOtGAq LIZmpL1T27Ov4b3nksrUNEtVhf2UIhLCJ/bgO1dULSkPnedGbBhnF+WTgG5ekTnH rxdAali8QUBsuhpE3JFfNlJYHXa7aWuk3OCfdvEJAQ+MzjQXSyto70EeHfqaVYXC hw7DwSd0LtKLMAi5NQZw/P8luhA0K8qNJP5JLyB2HlySZMJHE11g/0m0kSl4pH5k qi0QUHNzdNgp7mieEFObKcLp/7SFnZ50k5Ts3ESvIgH04Scjr+Ww+sUfj0rgenJr GBefK0HIe3yWswLpENaZbep43wDMw+j68XGLXxEDlzCNXwRAXZp90u6kP2pHwg+Z RC52UzEDpPlhh5Y0t+kjZXyFhS0oj0YQpn5Kf8y5y1Qipw2fKyiEwoB54lVmefmQ XdV5pLpiafmw7boNXo176rBtWWiS+PmhSpxY/fOtU3Xq/RYw4DnsWdms2FGXEX3/ x4CWP3j9YIuClcJ8oiVFdLGnPbDw6jLP5lX/SEbAS4JBHo/gq0nr51JLa+NRtQOi fHMoIuUTwMcoohWejF1LL6shBP7k9fqu92i62d/wVIW8oMPL/rLbwtQBnKR9aWxS oEmEuDMVTYRzRNV9N5xSlbkgmmZi1Zp9edFdQvV4gSP3fvI6+NORPOc03nA84A2U lDi0gmetU565Ag0EXJu79AEQAMF2/v8dMV1dSOmQLMTCpePJuSa6aPWO+8x+tNsc sVvudzHTePVppNHs10+Vha6L9jirMhofFsBmH73TsgvTafHQRTMUAzHFXRqinZSB ClfwxbWMmXiXhcv3qqRy8Icfs2WhLOrC1TnFiEh77GeNHelO4HzEEe9HmRQ917Xd k+gIdf5RDkeoyYrSG4bMlG4CKAslNEAJeZuQnsoE1b4bt3LvDvQesXPhQMrG8LOa oHpelnkVRTZhmYlzWVhlbfNowyL33dojcPOetHN9LtMe8ynZIgKqKOhNcOuo8GeK B9tNRRsJTylDN/Lzd9H/LQKv3k/LQQhC1DNHtl/W3iA2yXmg6u7uOP6o2rJMhIfo w1uBW2z5YZM8Abd7GKNZqnbGYC2SMIO4Y73ECX9HKvkpal+Yd5dUy7KEd+8y1hMl +2tGi0DrYOkKk1pDQBR2CGe2g5++NWKw3lGCVcM9v7twV3VXOo5h7s0zDbiD3xnI 4REdXKBZgJE36g4YQ9ntUED9lE5B3JxvGcKqKpBxG8KvXzmPZYnrzaSSrcGHgQIc DlHMaOHwx0oJlLF/ZOp+fSFB17uHMacRjqtFqARk7wGXBR0YThepKFjZtpC/i7qR +TJa8ktUd5KHm3ON+NLt706AsSj/8dT4QbV4uTG8RJAkLN+d3JGaOFwSX7LZ+AeF slLfABEBAAGJAjwEGAEIACYWIQTzZeZUSlyasTKTQtQvbUFFxV/HxwUCXJu79AIb DAUJEswDAAAKCRAvbUFFxV/Hx3MnEADnQ9b82umZ48WjzMfLeq0lraswaU2rAKmR NhMgLoYqe7QLywvG/zHwiwr07RU1RdmQG9wQC+ldRBM7SqANyuqEvMptaWZ/t0zy 1OUTzb4PqsZbHRHjVpyE0Pdb5WsjTfE4bXBLUU6DPyCP58S7FW4Nsh++GH2bLote iHqI0+WWyZk0aYzbmF8/IQe++rfr65TEEY2qcUP2AWNLE8gXY65oV7qOjcJz/uke jJvQ3HsR5Di60+kvIABOjIc3/5DMjp9bmGkr27u6EVyrxoBcC1Q/om3ynWtsnOhL 4F4F2upTeeUdmonRsr8hUFPUp2vm+fsuusE4JpzpNK4DjzhniZy+21dYQbPhBVOn yi12D6ZOdtRjSBEzRe3KJ18kDwhZiIPoO3plhxu+V/07kevqMtdnrN4VW3rYoR27 /PVGGsKqJv3IIGxWrEZk5nl5x0mIMHB1bTM/2BkjApD/Rt+0OyHLRS1VeEYnep3W cZjuH9WaMzPVjbnecUirPrkYYFUIdDO1I6QuDgbWcwdZWG0HOrNE3v/g/0cCyweF aLMg+893egNBAi5058jT+1pmx0JQTUUvlYY1QJEkgG89fExBOQTH3drLgv5etq5H IXhXHr9sCwFDqctHnqvrUeyyzOwTARJNOpoh2Eou8cIdAdvfDkcOK9fbedcqwUgW j8/1W9r08g=3D=3D =3D2gmp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --------------70F9B4B0BC7225316F26C051--