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From: bfd@cock.lu
To: Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli.ch>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Committed bloom filters for improved wallet performance and SPV security
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 12:18:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74aeb4760316b59a3db56c0d16d11f28@cock.lu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <77b6dd25-0603-a0bd-6a9e-38098e5cb19d@jonasschnelli.ch>

The concept combined with the weak blocks system where miners commit
to potential transaction inclusion with fractional difficulty blocks
is possible. I'm not personally convinced that unconfirmed transaction
display in a wallet is worth the privacy trade-off. The user has very
little to gain from this knowledge until the txn is in a block.


On 2017-01-01 13:01, Jonas Schnelli via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Hi
>> We introduce several concepts that rework the lightweight Bitcoin
>> client model in a manner which is secure, efficient and privacy
>> compatible.
>> 
>> The BFD can be used verbatim in replacement of BIP37, where the filter
>> can be cached between clients without needing to be recomputed. It can
>> also be used by normal pruned nodes to do re-scans locally of their
>> wallet without needing to have the block data available to scan, or
>> without reading the entire block chain from disk.
> I started exploring the potential of BFD after this specification.
> 
> What would be the preferred/recommended way to handle 0-conf/mempool
> filtering – if & once BDF would have been deployed (any type,
> semi-trusted oracles or protocol-level/softfork)?
> 
> From the user-experience perspective, this is probably pretty important
> (otherwise the experience will be that incoming funds can take serval
> minutes to hours until they appear).
> Using BIP37 bloom filters just for mempool filtering would obviously
> result in the same unwanted privacy-setup.
> 
> </jonas>
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-03 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-09  8:26 [bitcoin-dev] Committed bloom filters for improved wallet performance and SPV security bfd
2016-05-09  8:57 ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-11 20:06 ` Bob McElrath
2016-05-11 20:29   ` Bob McElrath
2016-07-28 21:07     ` Leo Wandersleb
2017-01-06 22:07       ` Erik Aronesty
2017-01-03 20:24     ` bfd
     [not found] ` <77b6dd25-0603-a0bd-6a9e-38098e5cb19d@jonasschnelli.ch>
2017-01-03 20:18   ` bfd [this message]
2017-01-03 22:18     ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-03 22:28       ` bfd
2017-01-03 23:06       ` adiabat
2017-01-03 23:46         ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-04  0:10           ` bfd
2017-01-04  0:36             ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-04  6:06               ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-04 16:13         ` Leo Wandersleb
2017-01-04  7:47       ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-01-04  8:56         ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-04 10:13           ` Jorge Timón
2017-01-04 11:00             ` Adam Back
2017-01-06  2:15           ` bfd
2017-01-06  7:07             ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-05  7:06         ` Chris Priest
2017-01-05  7:45           ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-05 14:48             ` Christian Decker
2017-01-06 20:15             ` Chris Priest
2017-01-06 21:35               ` James MacWhyte
2017-01-06 21:50                 ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-06  2:04           ` bfd
2017-03-15 22:36             ` Tom Harding
2017-03-16  0:25               ` bfd
2017-03-16 15:05                 ` Tom Harding
2017-02-17  0:28 ` Chris Belcher
2017-04-01 23:49   ` bfd

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