From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V1ZHU-0007Ku-8d for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:53:20 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of mac.com designates 17.158.236.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=17.158.236.236; envelope-from=gronager@mac.com; helo=nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com; Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.236.236]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1V1ZHR-0006Jf-0f for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:53:20 +0000 Received: from [10.6.0.99] (cpe.xe-3-1-0-415.bynqe10.dk.customer.tdc.net [188.180.67.254]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MQD00E2YVGK2QD0@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:53:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-23_03:2013-07-22, 2013-07-23, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307230027 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Michael Gronager In-reply-to: <20130723093759.GB6198@vps7135.xlshosting.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:53:07 +0200 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <7B546311-BBC6-45CB-8983-87DF722F0FA1@mac.com> References: <20130723093759.GB6198@vps7135.xlshosting.net> To: Pieter Wuille X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gronager[at]mac.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1V1ZHR-0006Jf-0f Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net, Andreas Schildbach Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] HTTP REST API for bitcoind X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:53:20 -0000 >=20 > The only way to do this safely at an SPV security assumption, is by > having an address-indexed committed merkle UTXO-set tree, like the > one proposed by Alan Reiner, and being implemented by Mark > Friedenback. I know Michael Gronager has something similar = implemented, > but I don't know whether it is script-indexed. The MerkleTrie I have in libcoin is indexed on UTXOs only. However, = adding an extra index for scripts would be pretty easy (half day of coding), or = even having the two merged into one index. The burden imposed on validating nodes for keeping such an index is = really minimal. When using the UTXO MerkleTrie I switch off the sqlite = index of these and vise versa, so there are hardly any measurable timing = difference. However, the MerkleTrie index is currently re-build on startup (which = takes ~30 sec on my laptop), keeping it synced with disk would be = optimal and in the long run necessary as even the UTXO set will grow = over time. > To be actually useful, > it likely needs to be enforced by miners - putting a significant > burden on validation nodes. Still, if it can be done efficiently, > I think this would be worth it, but more research is needed first in > any case. >=20