From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA543E2D for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 02:44:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-1857040130.protonmail.ch (mail-1857040130.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.130]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFB2B67F for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 02:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 22:44:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=default; t=1526006660; bh=HQpYaapmOQXLdXrSW89HgjxNbPjswneSIXH01qgpBoI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From; b=tk7n9Ve2HhJff/dwjl1gT+DQiRTl6X+upKn3Sos+Szbh3nuP0IbyoGv2tSNvyD2D8 lXehsd5NC1b358qxyCpEUgm6sMfUNyEhGAz9c/qUX0VON8UaeAfRbXKbcn+Pr/mztA Ks03iASkoMOS7/oK7bLcb2hb8uD49kqULMeNhhiY= To: Luke Dashjr , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion From: ZmnSCPxj Reply-To: ZmnSCPxj Message-ID: <85BPI8zj4VsPA41MQtIP9zozZlAgX-QOJerUTvQmAdL4bjdP8Ooh1jkZnks1I_Ce2nqK-bUTOXeNR3wnmeKR4Ml-hRTp9Uo_l7jx7F_GaNs=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201805100943.29654.luke@dashjr.org> References: <87po25lmzs.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <201805100943.29654.luke@dashjr.org> Feedback-ID: el4j0RWPRERue64lIQeq9Y2FP-mdB86tFqjmrJyEPR9VAtMovPEo9tvgA0CrTsSHJeeyPXqnoAu6DN-R04uJUg==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 May 2018 02:46:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making OP_TRUE standard? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 02:44:23 -0000 Good morning Luke and list, >=20 > (Aside, in case it wasn't clear on my previous email, the template-script= idea >=20 > would not make it mandatory to spend in the same block, but that the UTXO >=20 > would merely cease to be valid after that block. So the 0-value output do= es >=20 > not take up a UTXO db entry when left unused.) Thank you for clearing this up. It seems, I misunderstood. So my earlier = rumination, about having two options for Lightning, is incorrect. For Lightning, we just need to add this 0-value OP_TRUE output always to tr= ansactions that require both side signatures (commitment, HTLC-timeout, HTL= C-success), and it will always serve as a "hook" for adding more fees if n= eeded. Regards, ZmnSCPxj