From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81F71DF7 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:41:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wm0-f45.google.com (mail-wm0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C76CD413 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 141so12013143wme.3 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:41:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=Uqm4tzn/HTm/jAm6nVYtalnqkOFzxKSkmZhygdoKmAc=; b=EILYAC9iKTAeGiZUrjsHgMVHDL4UQkcWAq6xfuEQsyLxnmUCTifnuslyJkzttOb+r/ 4hDglLQ3v8VcYgECc9IUzzp/HtKoKTujyc2EK2vLf6077f8I0cFHGcvvR4nQqClnNeer V1G9U6scqi85dvB4TQym0LnWFFZcyeuJ6jYF651dWozkZRvoFdx1kUl/ySTQrp4QulJh Zf3dufyeDkKPmuQbixeCkv1VBS2UoxSInEpaoqyaiNDWXtQ1nMxhRTKgx6t68t+8TeCX OViuRFXLUGntTXJKgBqnZUnbNFpv9SseDqrCW0JCOoUnQxfa3P/X6V/gd/8Da6TdHLdM vUEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=Uqm4tzn/HTm/jAm6nVYtalnqkOFzxKSkmZhygdoKmAc=; b=AD/cHxFpyujzI1otwmoW23OCRGLrI9TY7wgStpUYyTTZh4OqX3E99EhOdq6vij6wFv pt2n2bdg63IWUfwJG+7Hv75L8UuumrYWhWY5TDEmixY6qccwXlLY1b1qy6P0vXAQTMBH l5AJNm30WyBq6RyE4gCQf8+kx3Y3UWRUH1WDBzaVoUJDD1nWNTyO8dsdPUhRU8SzXCeQ emBn+usVITbdinMvO0/dQsSdb/grLbnR9EPe0Z2NQZ/CtrGFkQ0DoxWRmomo7h8bR0Vq BM10y1RUd2NzQ4COCu1YYME51JjyHdjoq5B6cNM033qy6nN/h4aVNB4x1JdvlJ2q+dom EPvw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDKrAEoYtI4Oru0SxlxfoxRC/Fiy9TVSZJKscHD2x6M5EaHwW0J Oj0uQjtFb9qsDXkY8wX3Q3c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226/jz3MZPXwXmhw4xmYU1Zy8akiCCJOrqlVfXaeZEZluGVaYIhdBbE+och1ZxyWZLS7dCpbmA== X-Received: by 10.28.72.11 with SMTP id v11mr3975952wma.135.1518464514309; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([2a02:aa16:1102:5480:e99:3f63:40a2:83e9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 14sm15968105wry.95.2018.02.12.11.41.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:41:53 -0800 (PST) From: Christian Decker To: Peter Todd , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , Melvin Carvalho , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion In-Reply-To: <20180212181232.GA6489@fedora-23-dvm> References: <20180212181232.GA6489@fedora-23-dvm> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 20:41:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87bmguvvv0.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Total fees have almost crossed the block reward X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:41:56 -0000 Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev writes: > Does shabang.io say anywhere how it determines whether or not a transaction > funded a Lightning channel? My guess they simply collect the short_channel_ids which point to on-chain outputs that funded a channel. This relies on the channels being public, non-public channels can still be identified on settlement.