From: Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com>
To: Alejandro Ranchal Pedrosa <a.ranchalpedrosa@gmail.com>,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Alejandro Ranchal Pedrosa via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Cc: "TUCCI Sara" <sara.tucci@cea.fr>, "Önder GÜRCAN" <Onder.GURCAN@cea.fr>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A BIP proposal for transactions that are 'cancellable'
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 13:31:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8CA4E834-061C-4EE9-A69D-CAE69A08FE7D@mattcorallo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d4162e0-1f8b-0f23-85fc-9d18d4352cae@gmail.com>
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I think a simple approach to what you want to accomplish is to simply have a multisig option with a locktime pre-signed transaction which is broadcastable at the 24h mark and has different spendability. This avoids introducing reorg-induced invalidity.
On September 6, 2018 9:19:24 AM UTC, Alejandro Ranchal Pedrosa via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>We would like to propose a new BIP to extend OP_CSV (and/or OP_CLTV) in
>order for these to allow and interpret negative values. This way,
>taking the example shown in BIP 112:
>
>HASH160 <revokehash> EQUAL
>IF
> <Bob's pubkey>
>ELSE
> "24h" CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY DROP
> <Alice's pubkey>
>ENDIF
>CHECKSIG
>
>that gives ownership only to Bob for the first 24 hours and then to
>whichever spends first, we basically propose using the negative bit
>value:
>
>HASH160 <revokehash> EQUAL
>IF
> <Bob's pubkey>
>ELSE
> "-24h" CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY DROP
> <Alice's pubkey>
>ENDIF
>CHECKSIG
>
>meaning that both would have ownership for the first 24 hours, but
>after that only Bob would own such coins. Its implementation should
>not be too tedious, and in fact it simply implies considering negative
>values that are at the moment discarded as for the specification of
>BIP-112, leaving the sign bit unused.
>
>This, we argue, an increase the fairness of the users, and can at times
>be more cost-effective for users to do rather than trying a
>Replace-By-Fee
>transaction, should they want to modify such payment.
>
>We would like to have a discussion about this before proposing the
>BIP, for which we are preparing the text.
>
>You can find our paper discussing it here:
>https://hal-cea.archives-ouvertes.fr/cea-01867357 (find attached as
>well)
>
>Best,
>
>--
>Alejandro Ranchal Pedrosa, Önder Gürcan and Sara Tucci-Piergiovanni
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-06 9:19 [bitcoin-dev] A BIP proposal for transactions that are 'cancellable' Alejandro Ranchal Pedrosa
2018-09-06 13:31 ` Matt Corallo [this message]
[not found] ` <CABaiX-2L9oVdta=aRH91uE=iPRv4cX6zU0=+oF+2oWqnu=64YQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-06 16:33 ` Matt Corallo
2018-09-07 7:07 ` Alejandro Ranchal Pedrosa
2018-09-06 15:16 ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-09-06 20:32 ` Brandon Smith
2018-09-07 5:02 ` Terry McLaughlin
2018-09-07 7:12 ` Alejandro Ranchal Pedrosa
2018-09-07 12:51 ` Brandon Smith
2018-09-07 13:47 ` TUCCI Sara
2018-09-06 16:14 ` vizeet srivastava
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