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From: justusranvier@riseup.net
To: "Jorge Timón" <jtimon@jtimon.cc>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] F2Pool has enabled full replace-by-fee
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 18:37:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a49c53a032503eeca4f51cdef725fe1@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABm2gDrHFB_XtQXVvoFeEH5TUfWSc3JLcNuo-oSXNJaExB+Vdg@mail.gmail.com>

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On 2015-06-20 18:20, Jorge Timón wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> If we want a non-repudiation mechanism in the protocol, we should 
>> explicitly define one rather than relying on “prima facie” 
>> assumptions. Otherwise, I would recommend not relying on the existence 
>> of a signed transaction as proof of intent to pay…
> 
> Non-repudiation can be built on top of the payment protocol layer.


Non-repudiation is an intrinsic property of the ECDSA signatures which 
Bitcoin uses - it's not a feature that needs to be built.

There's no way to accidentally sign a transaction and accidentally 
announce it publicly. There is no form of third-party error that can 
result in a payee receiving an erroneous contract.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-20 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-19 10:39 [Bitcoin-development] F2Pool has enabled full replace-by-fee Peter Todd
2015-06-19 13:33 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-06-19 13:52   ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 14:00     ` Adrian Macneil
2015-06-19 14:08       ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 14:30         ` Adrian Macneil
2015-06-19 14:59           ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 15:20             ` Adrian Macneil
2015-06-19 15:40               ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 16:18                 ` Adrian Macneil
2015-06-19 16:37                   ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 20:39                   ` Matt Whitlock
2015-06-19 21:05                     ` Frank Flores
2015-06-19 21:15                       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-20  0:47                     ` Andreas Petersson
2015-06-20  1:09                       ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-06-20  1:23                         ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-20  3:07                           ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-20  3:48                           ` Luke Dashjr
2015-06-20  4:02                             ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-20 16:43                               ` Ivan Brightly
2015-06-20 17:38                                 ` Cameron Hejazi
2015-06-19 14:40       ` Chun Wang
2015-06-19 15:22         ` Adrian Macneil
2015-06-19 13:33 ` Stephen Morse
2015-06-19 13:37   ` Chun Wang
2015-06-19 13:48     ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 14:16     ` Lawrence Nahum
2015-06-19 13:40   ` Adrian Macneil
2015-06-19 13:44   ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 13:52     ` Chun Wang
2015-06-19 15:43       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-19 19:49       ` Jeffrey Paul
2015-06-19 15:42     ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-19 16:15     ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 15:00 ` justusranvier
2015-06-19 15:11   ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 15:37     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-19 15:53       ` justusranvier
2015-06-19 16:36         ` Matt Whitlock
2015-06-19 16:42           ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-19 16:46             ` Matt Whitlock
2015-06-19 16:53             ` Peter Todd
2015-06-19 16:54             ` justusranvier
2015-06-19 17:00             ` Tier Nolan
2015-06-20 23:20             ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-20 23:37               ` justusranvier [this message]
2015-06-21  0:19                 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-21  0:27                   ` justusranvier
2015-06-21  0:36                     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-21  0:54                     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-21  5:56                       ` Tom Harding
2015-06-21  6:45                       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-21  7:42                         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-21  8:35                           ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-21  8:41                           ` Btc Drak
2015-06-21  8:51                             ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-21 19:49                           ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-21 18:23                       ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-19 16:44           ` justusranvier
2015-06-19 17:40             ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-19 17:48               ` justusranvier
2015-06-19 17:50                 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-19 18:00                   ` justusranvier
2015-06-19 16:50           ` Milly Bitcoin
2015-06-19 16:41         ` [Bitcoin-development] Remove Us Please Gigas Gaming Inc.
2015-06-19 18:34           ` Jameson Lopp
2015-06-19 19:55             ` John Bodeen
2015-06-19 20:01               ` Brian Hoffman
2015-06-19 20:27                 ` Jameson Lopp
2015-06-20 23:16       ` [Bitcoin-development] F2Pool has enabled full replace-by-fee Jorge Timón
2015-06-20 23:47         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-20 23:52           ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-20 23:56           ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-19 15:39     ` justusranvier
2015-06-19 15:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-20 20:04 ` odinn
2015-06-21  2:11 ` Dario Sneidermanis
2015-06-21  2:23   ` Dario Sneidermanis

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