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From: Tom Zander <tomz@freedommail.ch>
To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:54:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9782389.Gd5V7OpbDZ@strawberry> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABm2gDrhCw-5mpCK814hK4Y1sEUcHZyFMHqHziC1b1LLtMWVDA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sunday, 16 October 2016 20:41:34 CEST Jorge Timón wrote:
> You keep insisting on "2 months after activation", but that's not how
> BIP9 works. We could at most change BIP9's initial date, but if those
> who haven't started to work on supporting segwit will keep waiting for
> activation, then changing the initial date won't be of any help to
> them can only delay those who are ready and waiting.

Then don't use BIP9...

Honestly, if the reason for the too-short-for-safety timespan is that you 
want to use BIP9, then please take a step back and realize that SegWit is a 
contriversial soft-fork that needs to be deployed in a way that is extra 
safe because you can't roll the feature back a week after deployment.
All transactions that were made in the mean time turn into everyone-can-
spent transactions.

I stand by the minimum of 2 months. There is no reason to use BIP9 as it was 
coded in an older client. That is an excuse that I don't buy.
-- 
Tom Zander
Blog: https://zander.github.io
Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel


  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-16 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-16 14:31 [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit) Pieter Wuille
2016-10-16 14:58 ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 16:35   ` Gavin Andresen
2016-10-16 16:42     ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 16:57       ` Johnson Lau
2016-10-16 17:04       ` [bitcoin-dev] On the security of soft forks Matt Corallo
2016-10-16 16:42     ` [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit) Eric Voskuil
2016-10-16 16:47     ` Douglas Roark
2016-10-16 18:20       ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 18:41         ` Jorge Timón
2016-10-16 18:54           ` Tom Zander [this message]
2016-10-16 19:11             ` Johnson Lau
2016-10-16 20:08               ` Tom Zander
2016-10-17  3:46                 ` Johnson Lau
2016-10-16 19:35         ` [bitcoin-dev] (no subject) Matt Corallo
2016-10-16 20:45           ` Tom Zander
2016-10-17 13:13             ` Btc Drak
2016-10-16 19:49         ` [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit) Douglas Roark
2016-10-16 20:58           ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 21:03             ` gb
2016-10-16 21:08             ` Marek Palatinus
2016-10-16 21:19             ` Andrew C
2016-10-17 11:17               ` Tom Zander
2016-10-17 13:09                 ` Peter Todd
2016-10-17 13:19                 ` Andrew C
2016-10-17 13:27                   ` Btc Drak
2016-10-17 13:31                 ` Jorge Timón
2016-10-16 20:14         ` Btc Drak
2016-10-16 16:08 ` Chris Belcher
2016-10-16 17:52 ` Matt Corallo
2016-10-16 21:49 ` Peter Todd

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