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[76.167.237.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k9sm11075771pdp.60.2015.07.23.17.56.03 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9E0A887E-0FA9-4C34-8A77-C4C24C396934"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Eric Lombrozo In-Reply-To: <55FFBC8F-A3C9-4109-89C7-AC359FBBD478@me.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:56:02 -0700 Message-Id: <9E5835B1-4FCC-4CB4-9ABD-F63B9D1C93D9@gmail.com> References: <55B113AF.40500@thinlink.com> <6F436293-9E2B-461C-B105-FC4CF9EBFC69@gmail.com> <42BF7FEB-320F-43BE-B3D9-1D76CB8B9975@gmai> <346D4CE0-E00D-4ABB-B131-EFA1416CB20C@me.com> <29363BE6-72A7-4D06-A974-C52BA12FD8BD@gmail.com> <55FFBC8F-A3C9-4109-89C7-AC359FBBD478@me.com> To: Jean-Paul Kogelman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: "bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:56:07 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9E0A887E-0FA9-4C34-8A77-C4C24C396934 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Jean-Paul Kogelman = wrote: >=20 > Quality of service as in: >=20 >> X satoshi / kb =3D included in block currently worked on; >=20 >> Y satoshi / kb =3D included in next block; >=20 >> Z satoshi / kb =3D included in block after that, etc. >=20 > Block count starts when transaction is first seen. Miners can set X, = Y, Z. >=20 > Market develops when miners start setting different values and adding = more transactions to blocks as opposed to other miners with higher = settings. >=20 > It basically comes down to the miners themselves if they want a = healthy fee market. If they stick to their guns, their influence on the = fees will be proportional to their hashing power. >=20 > jp The scheme I=E2=80=99ve been considering is the use of services = (separate from miners) that guarantee inclusion for you for some = predetermined price and then do the bidding on your behalf. Via = contracts you can guarantee you get included within a certain number of = blocks or you receive a full refund=E2=80=A6or even possibly receive = compensation for failure to deliver. --Apple-Mail=_9E0A887E-0FA9-4C34-8A77-C4C24C396934 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVsY0iAAoJEJNAI64YFENUKlcP/2wakNy1LUlAWYkLsI3SEpmu 3GQfLsznOGSdiEnhBsIrAieE1MHIa5vwDDAMMCVJ8RHNhK2dOCULXR2UEK22SDkp /fJWSyx4ddlksenIw8ANZs5mZJhrMGkXXr9PXV+KksdyRlz9+H7FFHUOo71xvDqE tuzczAzDY4vEByTDWRXajxq/IwMDfzTuM583UCsVYx5/FetOnbio1eBcEd5sVIqS hJM8GNvkxhuvxoOT9bKw0CQq8mA1FujUmGxrwRFNccj0/AcClUxv36H7EeT6Lrm+ 5Nk/Q4suScAWkoB/pyd3R076ztKBZwggVpznhIoEo57ROql/ZAbiqbBwKcOykGrp rEqe0WGfaE1c4PfZlC2U78HE31MpTQvKigqADVaF28gj15BvnhChyfSHIjaqYy9I qjChMOC5FvWNb/Oju8ibTYSNGNCo2GEvZwt8PStajR1CuFcMLSIiYgMpaLfvV6TC aoME2T5rL+5L/iSh88xBo/sgcp9ak4lPMIDtPONJUq0zuVxQV14UZc/16PXHg1+O Wm7NrO59IamAS7voR9N+UDJ0RQqZX8d7Bx/5TeG9XesbVjKzwVDAqSUlZ4oA4JLF QnLF1ID7nHD05QtwtcqKxg0ibDfKvhZkkks/yGe211gpT06oD6S4jYx2tGmMG/Ty cENHCCkeWOiTqMnhM4xF =hyJ/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_9E0A887E-0FA9-4C34-8A77-C4C24C396934--