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From: Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com>
To: Russell O'Connor <roconnor@blockstream.io>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 01:58:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AD15D42A-65C6-45E1-B8AF-032DCDA21283@mattcorallo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZUoKkS3nRVanRBtm4gRUvnTqS2Vt0gjsgkpwewEXjJk+zvDw@mail.gmail.com>

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Aside from patents related to the silicon manufacturing process itself and patents not yet published, yes, the process is unencumbered, and setting the correct precedent (that the community will fight large centralization risks) is important in the first case.

Matt

On May 11, 2016 9:23:21 PM EDT, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>Is the design and manufacturing processes for the most power efficient
>ASICs otherwise patent unencumbered?  If not, why do we care so much
>about
>this one patent over all the others that stand on the road between pen
>and
>paper computation and thermodynamically ideal computation?
>
>On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev <
>bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
>> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> > Secondly, we can probably make the consensus PoW allow blocks to be
>> mined using
>> > both the existing PoW algorithm, and a very slightly tweaked
>version
>> where
>> > implementing AsicBoost gives no advantage. That removes any
>incentive to
>> > implement AsicBoost, without making any hardware obsolete
>>
>> Taking that a step further, the old POW could continue to be accepted
>> but with a 20% target penalty. (or vice versa, with the new POW
>having
>> a 20% target boost.)
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-10 18:57 [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant Peter Todd
2016-05-10 20:27 ` Tier Nolan
2016-05-10 21:35   ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-10 21:43   ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-10 22:59     ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 12:20     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-11 13:08       ` Marek Palatinus
2016-05-11 21:01         ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 22:16           ` Simon Liu
2016-05-11 22:50             ` Peter Todd
2016-05-11 14:28       ` Luke Dashjr
2016-05-11 16:24         ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 18:28           ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 22:49             ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-12  2:27     ` Tom Harding
2016-05-12  2:31       ` Allen Piscitello
2016-05-12  2:33       ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  4:01         ` Tom Harding
2016-05-10 21:49 ` Marco Pontello
2016-05-10 22:17 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-10 22:27   ` Chris Riley
2016-05-11  3:14 ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11  9:21   ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 10:36     ` Henning Kopp
2016-05-11 10:47       ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 22:42         ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 22:58           ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-12  7:29             ` Tom
2016-05-12 11:05           ` Jorge Timón
2016-05-11 14:07   ` Jorge Timón
2016-05-11 14:18     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-11 14:30       ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 20:50   ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 22:00     ` James Hilliard
2016-05-11 23:01   ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  0:02     ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-12  1:23       ` Russell O'Connor
2016-05-12  1:58         ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  1:58         ` Matt Corallo [this message]

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