From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Wc7bT-00060c-Qs for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 06:21:19 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de ([80.237.132.66]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1Wc7bQ-0004yf-FB for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 06:21:19 +0000 Received: from [37.143.74.116] (helo=[192.168.0.105]); authenticated by wp059.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1Wc7bK-0007Rj-2o; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:21:10 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1EDBE2B6-634B-4AE4-9F21-38D8C130A653"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Tamas Blummer In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:21:17 +0200 Message-Id: References: <53540715.7050803@xylon.de> <1C408C12-B39B-46E4-B997-153D566158B1@swipeclock.com> <5354154C.1080908@olivere.de> <4098C706-D67F-474E-9C13-E4C8F56B41ED@swipeclock.com> <11664045-9CAB-4A9B-BE45-271496D870CD@swipeclock.com> To: Pieter Wuille X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; tamas@bitsofproof.com; 1398061276; 11c50613; X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1Wc7bQ-0004yf-FB Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] "bits": Unit of account X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 06:21:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1EDBE2B6-634B-4AE4-9F21-38D8C130A653 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_61B514C3-A422-4EAE-91B4-E13C1ACB0E4C" --Apple-Mail=_61B514C3-A422-4EAE-91B4-E13C1ACB0E4C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Here is one to please those looking for a =93fully qualified=94 slang = word, that links with the official XBT: xbit (spoken: ex-bit) would rationalise XBT (where X comes from = supranational use) and is unique. I personally associate from x to six also supporting the 1e-6 divisor of = Bitcoin. Regarding XBT: No matter who used it for what. The way Bloomberg will = use it will define its use in finance, and since that did not happen yet, we are not late to shape. Regards, Tamas Blummer http://bitsofproof.com On 21.04.2014, at 07:41, Pieter Wuille wrote: >=20 > On Apr 21, 2014 3:37 AM, "Un Ix" wrote: > > > > Something tells me this would be reduced to a single syllable in = common usage I.e. bit. >=20 > What units will be called colloquially is not something developers = will determine. It will vary, depend on language and culture, and is not = relevant to this discussion in my opinion. >=20 > It may well be that people in some geographic or language area will = end up (or for a while) calling 1e-06 BTC "bits". That's fine, but using = that as "official" name in software would be very strange and = potentially confusing in my opinion. As mentioned by others, that would = seem to me like calling dollars "bucks" in bank software. Nobody seems = to have a problem with having colloquial names, but "US dollar" or = "euro" are far less ambiguous than "bit". I think we need a more = distinctive name. >=20 > --=20 > Pieter > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform > Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software > Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready > Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > = http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform___________________________________________= ____ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development --Apple-Mail=_61B514C3-A422-4EAE-91B4-E13C1ACB0E4C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Here = is one to please those looking for a =93fully qualified=94 slang word, = that links with the official XBT:

xbit (spoken: = ex-bit) would rationalise XBT (where X comes from supranational use) and = is unique.

I personally associate from x to six also = supporting the 1e-6 divisor of Bitcoin.

Regarding XBT: No matter who used it for = what. The way Bloomberg will use it will define its use in = finance,
and since that did not = happen yet, we are not late to shape.

Regards,

Tamas = Blummer
http://bitsofproof.com

On 21.04.2014, at 07:41, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com> = wrote:


On Apr 21, 2014 3:37 AM, "Un Ix" <slashdevnull@hotmail.com> = wrote:
>
> Something tells me this would be reduced to a single syllable in = common usage I.e. bit.

What units will be called = colloquially is not something developers will determine. It will vary, = depend on language and culture, and is not relevant to this discussion = in my opinion.

It may well be that people in some = geographic or language area will end up (or for a while) calling 1e-06 = BTC "bits". That's fine, but using that as "official" name in software = would be very strange and potentially confusing in my opinion. As = mentioned by others, that would seem to me like calling dollars "bucks" = in bank software. Nobody seems to have a problem with having colloquial = names, but "US dollar" or "euro" are far less ambiguous than "bit". I = think we need a more distinctive name.

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